pocket aa's before the flop

just curious, has anyone ever seen a player folder pocket aces before the flop? just curious.

Not sure why you ever would. Perhaps if youre in a satellite and about to place with several all ins and calls in front of you.... I did hear they were people folding AA in the WSOP Main Event when 10 handed, just to make the November 9... but not sure if that was true or not. I cant imagine it would be.

If they folded AA preflop.. we obviously wouldn't see it, cuz it would have been folded.

Don't know why anyone would, though. If you're folding AA preflop, then you shouldn't be playing poker.

yes (tho it takes special circumstances):

YouTube - Guy folds Pocket Aces preflop on live TV

^^^ Wow... Tha'ts an amazing video

^^^ Thats a sick and lucky fold to get off AA like that....

Of course there are circumstances on the flop or after where you can easily fold AA. To fold AA preflop it would have to be a special circumstance like being very close to cashing on a satellite that x number of people receive the same seat i.e. win the same prize...

Special circumstances like the possibility of playing 3 handed with Jason Mercier and Phil Laak? lol

Sorry there, the video above is the 1st I ever seen or heard of. Folding AA preflop is just not a common thing. Shoot most people wont fold them post-flop!!! I have lost a many hands wishing I woulda folded them tho!!!

The look on mercier's face was priceless. That's a bad fold i don't care what laak hit. Also certain times in satellites where you fold AA in fear of being busted before a short stack.

I have only folded AA preflop one-time, and it was when I was in high-school, playing $5 games with my close friends. I was heads-up with a buddy of mine, and far behind in chips. I had a bad feeling about them and tossed em in the muck...

I folded AA pre once and only once. Satellite, one left on the bubble, and I have a middle stack. I'm pretty much guaranteed a spot, but there's a chance I lose if I shove. There was no need for the double up so I folded and won a seat. But besides that sort of situation, you shouldn't fold Aces pre ever. Not even on a money bubble, unless you REALLY need that cash (we're talking WSOP ME here, but even then better to go for gold IMO)

I folded once in a cash game and posted it on this forum and got flamed for ever!

The situation was this or something similar to this,

I raised up UTG and got shoved on by the next player and 4 or 5 people called.

I assumed at least one would be holding an Ace and maybe another Ace rag leaving me just with one pair. The others maybe holding top pairs or broadway cards. I folded and someone won with two pair or something like that might of even been a flush or straight cant remember was at the start of my poker "career" I was told I Was an idiot to fold which I guess I was but I had this sick feeling I was going to be donked off when so many people are involved in the hand and I was already on a bad run lol. I think I only had a 40% chance of winning when I input all the different hands in... It's frustrating at best of times getting it all in with Aces against two people let alone 4 lol.

If there's a situation where there are like at least 4 all-inners, then it might be a good idea to fold AA, but I'm talking about 90 player SNG 250 chip play money tournaments where everyone goes all in before the flop on the 1st hand. I can remember doing it least once, and it wuz a good thing that I did, cuz I would have lost. Btw, wut's up w/Laaks hair in this video? He looks like a rooster.

Please explain why you would fold here

Sure... when you have pocket aces, the equity in the hand drops %10 every time there is another player in the hand...so if there are 5 other players in the hand, your equity is below %50, since it is about a 85/15 favorite playing heads up.

It's just easy to imagine in this situation that if somebody else has pocket pairs , at some point they are going to hit a set, or suited connecters will get 2 pair, flushes, straights,etc.

250 play chip 90 men sng's are about the dumbest online tournaments you can possibly imagine. If u fold ur 1st 3 hands, about a 1/3 of the other players will have already been eliminated. I've actually been able to fold all the way to the final table.

but you can never fold AA preflop in a cash game.

I would have shoved pre-flop if I was Scott Fischman there^^

I agree! I don't think anyone would have called, but then again some people would challenge it with any pair. But yeah I woulda shoved and been sitting with the pokerface if buddy with 66 called me and that flop came! lol

But really you just call with the AA, get a 6x stack and win it from there. If you lose, reload your play chips

You know them being pro's they pretty much don't call you with any hand and you pick up the extra $, even if Laak had KK he would tank for sure. They knew Scott's position and that he would never be willing to risk going all-in without AA. Especially with 66 none of them would ever even entertain the idea of calling. (unless this was pot max pre-flop then he of course couldn't move all-in, which I think it actually may have been)

yes i have folded AA preflop under these same circumstances....a few times as a matter of fact....sattys where im pretty much guarenteed to make the cut even if i dont play another hand...i figure why would i even take a chance of being beat for a pot that could leave me in danger of making nothing

He probably would have if he was allowed to, but it was pot limit preflop, so he could only raise pot, and I doubt anyone would have folded.

yeah the guy in the video made an UNBELIEVEABLE fold.....i dont see how or why he folded there, its almost like he knew someone was gonna flop quads, ive watched it 4 times and cant see anything that would make him muck, it was a standard pot with no crazy 3, 4 , or 5 bet shoves no 5 or 6 way action, its literally like the guy knew what the outcome was gonna be.....that move completley puzzles me

No dude not at all lol

This guy was on the show "Pokerstars.net Big Game" where they stake somebody $100,000 to play in a $300/$600 with all the pros. The profit that the player makes off of this $100,000 is how much he can keep. For example, if the player ends the night with $123,000 he gets to keep $23,000, and these are just some regular everyday people who need the money. This guy was at like $200,000 or something like that, maybe a little lower, and he obviously didn't want to play anymore hands and risk losing his $. Instead he just got blinded off a little bit. It was not his intuition or psychic ability to see that someone was gonna flop quads.

Cool Video

Yes, I have, I was on the bubble, and im glad I did fold, cause 1 of the two all in players had KK, but the 1 with the JJ got his set.

It was my coach that once warned me of this sort of play while on the bubble, Im so glad I listened to him.

I have once or twice I'm sure when the tourney was right at the bubble and I just wanted to make sure I made my buy-in back. I might fold in the beginning of a tourney if there were like 5 all-ins ahead of me.

Silly stuff.

Haha what folding aces on the bubble shortstacked or when a table goes all in first hand?

Folding aces on the bubble and when a table goes all-in first hand.

I insta shove on both occasions.

Actually it might not be such a 'bad fold' if you're familiar with the show. The "loose cannon" is shooting for a top prize vs. the other 'loose cannons' who are also competing (whoever has won most profit wins a pkg -> NAPT passport) At this point he was at 240k which was far ahead of his opponents so 'going for it' at this point might not have been worth it (in the big picture).

Think about it. You just won $140,000 - More money than if you went on Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune. He is not a professional poker player, his life bankroll, never mind poker bankroll is less than what he has in front of him.

I give this guy mad props for putting his family's future ahead of his ego or greed. The fact he would have gotten crushed is irrelevelent.

On Thursday, in a double or nothing sng, a guy folded aces when a guy w/ only 300 chips left was in 4th and I as a big stack had shoved before and the guy folded cause he didn't want to risk getting koed on the bubble.

lol...my friend does that...she says that she knows she's gonna lose :/...i think she's crazy :/

Does your friend read palms, crystal balls, and talk to the dead, too?

The guy who folded AA also folded KK pre, and he would have had an amazingly profitable situation postflop had he played it: AQ out on Q-high flop.