Pic of Five Aces on PS is a fake.

#1 3rd September 2008, 1:48 AM

Hey Cardschaters,

Recently, I was sent a picture of a "Screen Shot" of one hand in a Tourney at the PokerStars Poker site.

The susposed "ScreenShot" displayed Five Aces on the Board.

I sent PokerStars a copy of the picture and ask if it was a legit pic or not.

They indicated that they had seen it before, and it was definitely a Fake picture.

Here is a copy of the corresponance between me and PokerStar Support.
I have a copy if anyone is interested.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: mihaelange@verizon.net
>Sent: 2008/09/02 10:59:32
>To: support@pokerstars.com
>Subject: Pic of Five Aces on PS
>
>>Dear PokerStars Support,
>>
>>I am attaching a picture of a Screen Shot that shows where five Aces,
>(AAAAA) were dealt in a tourney on Poker Stars.
>>
>>Please let me know if it is a real or fake pic.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>mange1234

=====================
>From: PokerStars Support <support@pokerstars.com>
>Date: 2008/09/02 Tue AM 11:08:08 EDT
>To: mihaelange@verizon.net
>Subject: Pic of Five Aces on PS
>
>Hello Michael,
>
>Thank you for your Email. We have seen this site before, and can say
>with certainty that the image there is a fake.
>
>T# 14705493 was the $10 + $1 Deep Stacks tournament held on 12th
>November
>2005. The top four players in this event were:
>
>"gamblinfla"
>"MiketheKid2"
>"twiceasright"
>"witzy2004"
>
>The player "Big Devin" didn't take part in this tournament.
>
>Next, you can see the observer "style12" in chat on the
>table. "style12" is not a User ID on our database as of June 2006 --
>he doesn't exist.
>
>There are also two hands mentioned here. One is # 3044245011 and the
>other # 3044243120. I've attached them both below so that you can see
>the hands as they originally happened. As you can see, the chip
>stacks are totally consistent from one hand to the next. Further
>more, "Big Devin" didn't take part.
>
>Finally, it is clearly demonstrable that the image has been edited.
>Attached please find a closeup of several of the cards on the screen.
>If you look closely, you'll see that the ace of clubs is one pixel too
>high. The prankster that tried to run this hoax was not quite careful
>enough with his editing and left this evidence behind.
>
>I hope that this sets your mind at ease, but if you have further
>queries, please do not hesitate to let us know.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jeff
>PokerStars Support Team
>
>---
>
>PokerStars Game #3044245011: Tournament #14705493, $10+$1 Hold'em No
>Limit - Level XX (10000/20000) - 2005/11/12 - 22:53:37 (ET)
>Table '14705493 44' Seat #4 is the button
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (3550492 in chips)
>Seat 5: twiceasright (536880 in chips)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (326768 in chips)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (880860 in chips)
>22:53:37 gamblninfla: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 twiceasright: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 witzy2004: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 MiketheKid2: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:37 twiceasright: posts small blind 10000
>22:53:37 witzy2004: posts big blind 20000
>22:53:37 *** HOLE CARDS ***
>Dealt to gamblninfla [Kd Qc]
>22:53:37
>Dealt to witzy2004 [Ad Tc]
>22:53:41 MiketheKid2: folds
>22:53:42 albo [observer] said, "i took a bad beat in this tourney"
>22:53:43 gamblninfla: raises 40000 to 60000
>22:53:43 twiceasright: folds
>22:53:46 albo [observer] said, "and it was in this table"
>22:53:47 witzy2004: raises 265768 to 325768 and is all-in
>22:53:49 gamblninfla: calls 265768
>22:53:49 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:53 *** FLOP *** [5s Ks 4d]
>22:53:53 glarnex [observer] said, "qk"
>22:53:58 glarnex [observer] said, "3"
>22:53:59 *** TURN *** [5s Ks 4d] 3♠
>22:54:01 glarnex [observer] said, "7"
>22:54:02 *** RIVER *** [5s Ks 4d 3s] K♣
>22:54:05 *** SHOW DOWN ***
>witzy2004: shows [Ad Tc] (a pair of Kings)
>22:54:05 gamblninfla: shows [Kd Qc] (three of a kind, Kings)
>22:54:06 bighuurt11 [observer] said, "700 for you"
>22:54:07 gamblninfla collected 665536 from pot
>22:54:08 Dolemite42 [observer] said, "nh"
>22:54:08 albo [observer] said, "finished 108"
>22:54:08 twiceasright said, "gg"
>22:54:09 glarnex [observer] said, "im good"
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot 665536 | Rake 0
>Board [5s Ks 4d 3s Kc]
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (button) showed [Kd Qc] and won (665536) with
>three of
>a kind, Kings
>Seat 5: twiceasright (small blind) folded before Flop
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (big blind) showed [Ad Tc] and lost with a pair of
>Kings
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>
>PokerStars Game #3044243120: Tournament #14705493, $10+$1 Hold'em No
>Limit - Level XX (10000/20000) - 2005/11/12 - 22:53:25 (ET)
>Table '14705493 44' Seat #9 is the button
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (3561492 in chips)
>Seat 5: twiceasright (523880 in chips)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (327768 in chips)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (881860 in chips)
>22:53:25 gamblninfla: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 twiceasright: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 witzy2004: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 MiketheKid2: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:25 gamblninfla: posts small blind 10000
>22:53:25 twiceasright: posts big blind 20000
>22:53:25 *** HOLE CARDS ***
>22:53:27 witzy2004: folds
>22:53:28 gamblninfla said, "not a chance hon..lmao"
>22:53:29 MiketheKid2: folds
>22:53:30 gamblninfla: folds
>22:53:30 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:33 twiceasright collected 24000 from pot
>22:53:35 twiceasright: doesn't show hand
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot 24000 | Rake 0
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (small blind) folded before Flop
>Seat 5: twiceasright (big blind) collected (24000)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>
End

#2 3rd September 2008, 1:56 AM

Its not real??? I thought 5 aces were in every pokerstars deck seeing as when I have QQ or KK one always comes on the flop!

#3 3rd September 2008, 1:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mange

Hey Cardschaters,

Recently, I was sent a picture of a "Screen Shot" of one hand in a Tourney at the PokerStars Poker site.

The susposed "ScreenShot" displayed Five Aces on the Board.

I sent PokerStars a copy of the picture and ask if it was a legit pic or not.

They indicated that they had seen it before, and it was definitely a Fake picture.

Here is a copy of the corresponance between me and PokerStar Support.
I have a copy if anyone is interested.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: mihaelange@verizon.net
>Sent: 2008/09/02 10:59:32
>To: support@pokerstars.com
>Subject: Pic of Five Aces on PokerStars
>
>>Dear PokerStars Support,
>>
>>I am attaching a picture of a Screen Shot that shows where five Aces,
>(AAAAA) were dealt in a tourney on Poker Stars.
>>
>>Please let me know if it is a real or fake pic.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>mange1234

=====================
>From: PokerStars Support <support@pokerstars.com>
>Date: 2008/09/02 Tue AM 11:08:08 EDT
>To: mihaelange@verizon.net
>Subject: Pic of Five Aces on PS
>
>Hello Michael,
>
>Thank you for your Email. We have seen this site before, and can say
>with certainty that the image there is a fake.
>
>T# 14705493 was the $10 + $1 Deep Stacks tournament held on 12th
>November
>2005. The top four players in this event were:
>
>"gamblinfla"
>"MiketheKid2"
>"twiceasright"
>"witzy2004"
>
>The player "Big Devin" didn't take part in this tournament.
>
>Next, you can see the observer "style12" in chat on the
>table. "style12" is not a User ID on our database as of June 2006 --
>he doesn't exist.
>
>There are also two hands mentioned here. One is # 3044245011 and the
>other # 3044243120. I've attached them both below so that you can see
>the hands as they originally happened. As you can see, the chip
>stacks are totally consistent from one hand to the next. Further
>more, "Big Devin" didn't take part.
>
>Finally, it is clearly demonstrable that the image has been edited.
>Attached please find a closeup of several of the cards on the screen.
>If you look closely, you'll see that the ace of clubs is one pixel too
>high. The prankster that tried to run this hoax was not quite careful
>enough with his editing and left this evidence behind.
>
>I hope that this sets your mind at ease, but if you have further
>queries, please do not hesitate to let us know.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jeff
>PokerStars Support Team
>
>---
>
>PokerStars Game #3044245011: Tournament #14705493, $10+$1 Hold'em No
>Limit - Level XX (10000/20000) - 2005/11/12 - 22:53:37 (ET)
>Table '14705493 44' Seat #4 is the button
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (3550492 in chips)
>Seat 5: twiceasright (536880 in chips)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (326768 in chips)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (880860 in chips)
>22:53:37 gamblninfla: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 twiceasright: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 witzy2004: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 MiketheKid2: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:37 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:37 twiceasright: posts small blind 10000
>22:53:37 witzy2004: posts big blind 20000
>22:53:37 *** HOLE CARDS ***
>Dealt to gamblninfla [Kd Qc]
>22:53:37
>Dealt to witzy2004 [Ad Tc]
>22:53:41 MiketheKid2: folds
>22:53:42 albo [observer] said, "i took a bad beat in this tourney"
>22:53:43 gamblninfla: raises 40000 to 60000
>22:53:43 twiceasright: folds
>22:53:46 albo [observer] said, "and it was in this table"
>22:53:47 witzy2004: raises 265768 to 325768 and is all-in
>22:53:49 gamblninfla: calls 265768
>22:53:49 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:53 *** FLOP *** [5s Ks 4d]
>22:53:53 glarnex [observer] said, "qk"
>22:53:58 glarnex [observer] said, "3"
>22:53:59 *** TURN *** [5s Ks 4d] 3♠
>22:54:01 glarnex [observer] said, "7"
>22:54:02 *** RIVER *** [5s Ks 4d 3s] K♣
>22:54:05 *** SHOW DOWN ***
>witzy2004: shows [Ad Tc] (a pair of Kings)
>22:54:05 gamblninfla: shows [Kd Qc] (three of a kind, Kings)
>22:54:06 bighuurt11 [observer] said, "700 for you"
>22:54:07 gamblninfla collected 665536 from pot
>22:54:08 Dolemite42 [observer] said, "nh"
>22:54:08 albo [observer] said, "finished 108"
>22:54:08 twiceasright said, "gg"
>22:54:09 glarnex [observer] said, "im good"
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot 665536 | Rake 0
>Board [5s Ks 4d 3s Kc]
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (button) showed [Kd Qc] and won (665536) with
>three of
>a kind, Kings
>Seat 5: twiceasright (small blind) folded before Flop
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (big blind) showed [Ad Tc] and lost with a pair of
>Kings
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>
>PokerStars Game #3044243120: Tournament #14705493, $10+$1 Hold'em No
>Limit - Level XX (10000/20000) - 2005/11/12 - 22:53:25 (ET)
>Table '14705493 44' Seat #9 is the button
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (3561492 in chips)
>Seat 5: twiceasright (523880 in chips)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 (327768 in chips)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (881860 in chips)
>22:53:25 gamblninfla: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 twiceasright: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 witzy2004: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 MiketheKid2: posts the ante 1000
>22:53:25 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:25 gamblninfla: posts small blind 10000
>22:53:25 twiceasright: posts big blind 20000
>22:53:25 *** HOLE CARDS ***
>22:53:27 witzy2004: folds
>22:53:28 gamblninfla said, "not a chance hon..lmao"
>22:53:29 MiketheKid2: folds
>22:53:30 gamblninfla: folds
>22:53:30 Moving Bets to Pot
>22:53:33 twiceasright collected 24000 from pot
>22:53:35 twiceasright: doesn't show hand
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot 24000 | Rake 0
>Seat 4: gamblninfla (small blind) folded before Flop
>Seat 5: twiceasright (big blind) collected (24000)
>Seat 7: witzy2004 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 9: MiketheKid2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>
End

Sorry about the messed up print. It was normal when I copied it. And, got distorted after I pasted it to the Thread.

#4 3rd September 2008, 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monoxide

Its not real??? I thought 5 aces were in every pokerstars deck seeing as when I have QQ or KK one always comes on the flop!

Hey Monoxide,

I know the feeling. Seems when you have KK or QQ there are ten aces in the deck. LMAO.

Here is a copy of the so called screen shop. I think.

TC and cya on the felts.

#5 3rd September 2008, 2:32 AM

#6 3rd September 2008, 2:42 AM

i for one am shocked

#7 3rd September 2008, 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtriclone

That looks real to me. I would be mad as hell. I know there is something wrong with the poker sites oh well.

LOL even with an explanation......Some people will always think the poker sites are out to get them....

#8 3rd September 2008, 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtriclone

That looks real to me. I would be mad as hell. I know there is something wrong with the poker sites oh well.

the poker sites dont have to cheat to get your money. most gamblers gladly hand it over and usually smile while doing so.

#9 3rd September 2008, 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadman75

i have seen this so many times.i guess its a decent photoshop job.

But it's not. The Ace of Clubs in the middle is clearly higher than the rest of the community cards.

To the OP, thanks for hoping in the DeLorean and going back to 2006 when this pic was first posted on here. You just wasted 1.21 Gigawatts.

#10 3rd September 2008, 3:57 AM

This definently looks photoshopped. I have seen a hand on Fulltilt where somebody was cheated out of a split pot. I have only seen this once, but unfortunately i didnt have my camera on me and it was only a freeroll. Id be really worried if i ever did see a hand like that. Somebody actually got a sick pleasure out doctering that photo.

#11 4th September 2008, 6:50 PM

ya really seems everytime you have high pkt pair even if some Donkey on pokerstars allins A2 off they hit A i wouldnt doubt if this pic i real lol i mean the guy could have AxLow off and 200,000 in chip vs your KK and 199,000 and you will lose lol 99% of time lol

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