Phil Laak

#1 21st August 2011, 10:53 PM

I am catching up on some TV poker via High Stakes Poker youtube. And I just wanted to see if anyone else agrees with me. I'd like to go ahead and take away Phil Laak's "pro" status. I've never seen him play well. Honestly... he's had a couple of wins, but really enough is enough. lol

Stix

#2 22nd August 2011, 1:24 AM

Phil Laak one of my favourite players. Love him. Also watch him on Pokerstars "the big game" I think he's up a ton of money (if I remember correctly).

#3 22nd August 2011, 2:22 AM

Just because you play poker on TV does not give you "pro" status. If you play poker for a living you are a professional poker player.

#4 22nd August 2011, 2:25 AM

OP was kinda tongue in cheek, but he's such a nit. lol Seems decent with numbers, but he's one pro I've never been impressed with.

#5 22nd August 2011, 2:51 AM

Agree that he mostly plays like a nit on TV and that's not necessarily interesting to watch (his personality to some extent makes up for that) but IMO he's still very much a pro: he's a grinder though, not a flashy made-for-TV player.

#6 22nd August 2011, 3:26 AM

Its weird because his personality screams high stakes baller yet I've heard he regularly grinds like 25/50 nl live cash games. From what I heard he absolutely crushes those game but when he goes into these high stakes shows, its more for the TV Time than it is for it being +ev. He just resorts to playing Lederer style because its so much more than hes used to playing for.

#7 22nd August 2011, 7:52 AM

you really think any of the players on tv shows are playing their real game? thats like believing the wwe is wrestling

#8 22nd August 2011, 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pfb8888

you really think any of the players on tv shows are playing their real game? thats like believing the wwe is wrestling

...wait. So, you're saying that WWE isn't real...wrestling?

#9 22nd August 2011, 9:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LombardiStix

I am catching up on some TV poker via High Stakes Poker youtube. And I just wanted to see if anyone else agrees with me. I'd like to go ahead and take away Phil Laak's "pro" status. I've never seen him play well. Honestly... he's had a couple of wins, but really enough is enough. lol

Stix

I always wanted to know who gave the "pro" status.

#10 22nd August 2011, 12:13 PM

He doesn't even need money his wife has gazillions. He can just dip in the Tilly fund if he ever goes broke.

#11 22nd August 2011, 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by danprince10

Its weird because his personality screams high stakes baller yet I've heard he regularly grinds like 25/50 nl live cash games. From what I heard he absolutely crushes those game but when he goes into these high stakes shows, its more for the TV Time than it is for it being +ev. He just resorts to playing Lederer style because its so much more than hes used to playing for.

I think you are prolly dead on. When he gets to the high stakes he plays SUPER scared with the exception of a very few moments. And he talks about "how much money it is" constantly, so you're probably right. He clams up and plays silly. He looks like he can't hang with any of the "pros" on there.

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Originally Posted by pfb8888

you really think any of the players on tv shows are playing their real game? thats like believing the wwe is wrestling

Yeah I do think a lot of the guys are playing their game. When there's over a mil on the table to win... yeah I think they're playing to win money and being on TV helps them with sponsorship stuff, but that's a lot of money and there are a lot of guys actually playing for it.

#12 22nd August 2011, 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup

If you play poker for a living you are a professional poker player.

This. Being known or unknown has nothing to do with it. Nor can pro status be bestowed upon someone or taken away.

About Laak--I like him. Check out his monthly columns in Bluff Magazine. He has a deep passion for poker as well as life, and his enthusiasm for both is positively infectious.

#13 22nd August 2011, 8:23 PM

Wow, I don't see how anyone could knock Phil Laak. He has the Guiness Record for longest poker session and over $2M on tournament winnings. At cash games, he wins tons of money by setting up a nitty table image that other players try to exploit, then he busts them (example: Matusow bluffs off his stack to Phil Laak, HSP Season 3) or raises them to $44,400 or $33,300 to scare them off (example 2: Light check-raise in a 3way pot vs. Chan and Kline, HSP Season 7). Haters gonna hate.

#14 22nd August 2011, 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by palmerd2

Wow, I don't see how anyone could knock Phil Laak. He has the Guiness Record for longest poker session and over $2M on tournament winnings. At cash games, he wins tons of money by setting up a nitty table image that other players try to exploit, then he busts them (example: Matusow bluffs off his stack to Phil Laak, HSP Season 3) or raises them to $44,400 or $33,300 to scare them off (example 2: Light check-raise in a 3way pot vs. Chan and Kline, HSP Season 7). Haters gonna hate.

Again, it is really a tongue in cheek post.

#15 22nd August 2011, 11:27 PM

I like Phil Laak. I'd find it irritating to try to play poker near him, but I like him and think he's a good player.

#16 23rd August 2011, 12:07 AM

Phil Laak is down 20 points on the Pro status stock market. Its rough times.

#17 23rd August 2011, 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by only_bridge

Phil Laak is down 20 points on the Pro status stock market. Its rough times.

I actually heard it was '19'. Also heard it went up a few pts. when he got hammered on PAD (more young donk appeal) but then lost a few when the older donks submitted their pro status reports.

Oh & fwiw, TV poker is fake... just like poker on the interwebs... it's rigged obviously.

#18 23rd August 2011, 5:35 AM

Phil makes poker entertaining to people who don't watch poker on tv regularly.

#19 23rd August 2011, 6:23 AM

Laak raaks! Great player imo. Perhaps the higher stakes gets him off his game but he's up there with the best of them.

#20 23rd August 2011, 6:34 AM

Let me see...... He won a WTP, won a bracelet and many other tournament, so he is not a pro. LOL. Seriously read his Bio. And watch him play live. If he is not a pro then what do you call him. If you won as much as him would you be consider a pro. LoL.

#21 23rd August 2011, 7:48 AM

If Phil's playing, I'm watching.

#22 23rd August 2011, 7:51 AM

His guest appearance on Loveline with Antonio is just. So. Damn. Good.

#23 23rd August 2011, 1:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

I actually heard it was '19'. Also heard it went up a few pts. when he got hammered on PAD (more young donk appeal) but then lost a few when the older donks submitted their pro status reports.

Oh & fwiw, TV poker is fake... just like poker on the interwebs... it's rigged obviously.

Thank you for understanding the spirit of the post. ffs

#24 23rd August 2011, 2:29 PM

Phil Laak is defintely one of the most interesting players in the world to watch play poker. He has what most poker players dont have...PERSONALITY.

#25 23rd August 2011, 4:04 PM

I personally don't like watching phil play. I find him annoying and his jokes are not even funny.

#26 23rd August 2011, 6:32 PM

I'm not sure if any of you saw the Poker After Dark game where Phil was pounding drinks. He was any thing but a nit that game ... not that his strategy worked all that well. But I found it very entertaining to watch.

#27 24th August 2011, 11:39 AM

haters gonna hate

#28 24th August 2011, 3:24 PM

Phil is definitely the most entertaining to watch... Annoying as fack when he's drunk but funny as fack with his hyperactive bipolar mad genius persona... He's always talking, but always observing and taking mental notes.... i havent seen him get crushed except for the drunken show.... check out the video of him in hospital after his ATV accident... funny as fack even in the hospital

#29 24th August 2011, 6:20 PM

i dont know what his poker profit is, but i would imagine he's won more than lost

personality, i find him entertaining, but sometimes he just gets too much with the math stuff and babbling and he doesn't always have the numbers right

one thing i dont find entertaining is when Laak and Antonio "the magician" are at the same table ... they have this annoying little lingo thing that goes back and forth and it's really not funny ... separately, they are OK

#30 24th August 2011, 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by poker d player

I'm not sure if any of you saw the Poker After Dark game where Phil was pounding drinks. He was any thing but a nit that game ... not that his strategy worked all that well. But I found it very entertaining to watch.

Yeah hahaha that was hilarious. He did however take things a bit too far with viffer (he took his chips and threw them into the pot at one point) Those series of episodes were highly entertaining though.

#31 24th August 2011, 10:12 PM

I seen him instafold AJ preflop with nobody else raising. He is a very paranoid player, but very interesting. Never boring poker with him at a table.

#32 24th August 2011, 10:13 PM

i dont think phil laak its good enoguth to be a pro only think he got its jennfier tilly

#33 24th August 2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kmax11

i dont think phil laak its good enoguth to be a pro only think he got its jennfier tilly

This guy gets it. Post of the month?!?!

#34 25th August 2011, 5:37 AM

I mean he did win a wsope bracelet last year, the guy obviously has some talent. He needs to work on his game, especially his 6-9 handed nlhe game. He gets owned by the likes of dwan and galfond on tv, and they aren't even super tough spots.

#35 31st August 2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LombardiStix

This guy gets it. Post of the month?!?!

Well the guy does play at rakeback so he probably knows his stuff.

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