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| Knew it already, but still worth a watch. Well I would basically go with Esfandiari: "How can he fold Kings?!" I guess Mike was too afraid in this hand playing his Kings too passive and then getting unsure at the end what to do. Maybe he also gave Phil Jacks, Queens or Aces...who knows. |
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First of all, for those not familiar with the show, they were playing with the 7-2 rule that they seem to like, especially when Esfandiari is in the game where anybody who can win a pot with 7-2 gets $500.00 from every other player. Screws things up in trying to put somebody on a hand, because it's 50/50 whether they've got a monster or going for the extra bucks. This is the whole reason Hellmuth was betting out. Anyway, flop comes Q-J-6. Matusow bets, Helmuth triples it. Hmmm, what might he have? AA QQ - trips JJ - trips 66 - trips QJ - Two pair Q6 - Two pair J6 - Two pair 10-9 - Open ended straight draw 7 possible hands that beat Matusow's hand, plus the drawing hand. Matusow calls. Turn = 8 which adds: Queen high straight to the # of hands for a total of 8 Hellmuth checks, Matusow checks. River = 6 Hellmuth bets 17,000, nearly the pot. Hmmm, what might he have now? AA QQ - Full house, Queens over 6's JJ - Full house, Jacks over 6's 66 - Quads QJ - Two pair Q6 - Full house, 6's over Queens J6 - Full house, 6's over Jacks 10-9 - Queen high straight. For a total of eight hands that will beat Matusow's lone Kings. (FWIW, Kaplan's commentary was dead wrong when he stated that the only cards Hellmuth could have that would beat Matusow were AA, QQ or JJ. I think two pair, full house and quads STILL beat a pair.) Myself, I would have folded after Hellmuth's big raise after the flop. But that's just me. BTW, nice signature, but I had it first. |
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Hellmuth re-raises Mike's 1800 raise to 7k preflop !! Should Mike then really give him hands like 109, J6, Q6, QJ, 66? I would say no....so there are only 3 hands left basically which Mike has to be afraid of and that is JJ, QQ and AA. Kaplan was totally right with his statement. |
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| I find it really stupid how they play the 7 2 so hardcore risking thousands just to win 500 from each player for a total of 4k. They risk more than they can win from each player by playing 7 2. Big fricking deal if you can bluff your opponent out and show 7 2. Stupid. |
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Guess we have to remember these are professional gamblers, with the emphasis on "gamble". Doyle's $100K bet on weight loss. Howard Lederer eating a cheeseburger after becoming a vegetarian to win a $10K bet with, I believe, Eric Siedel. Amarillo Slim actually winning a fairly large bet for winning a round of golf using a coke bottle instead of clubs. I mean, these guys will apparently bet on just about anything. FWIW, I like Poker After Dark much better than High Stakes Poker precisely because of the absence of the wierd side actions and modifications. |
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| lol, i like this video very much how hellmuth wins with 2 7 lol matusow thinks he's got a great hand but is really thinking he might have the 2 7 but he folds and gets a bit mad for the 2 7 lol. I really like how hellmuth played the hand but matusow was really scared he had kings he should've gone with the hand and played it as it should be played. |
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Just happened to notice the sig when I was posting my response. And thank you for responding back. |
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| Thanks for this, a classic I hadnt seen. There is a lot 'personal' going on in the hand -- keep that in mind next time u have a 'grudge' feeling with someone... also the showboating with 72 for the cameras... aint no cameras around when u try it! Ballsy play by Phil for his homeys... Mike outplayed himself by overthinking and not betting Phil out, poorly played Ks, but in the end Phil put him to the test and won. Mike played that one like a rabbit. |
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| re: Phil Hellmuth vs Mike Matusow High Stakes (Gotta Watch This Guys) poker Phill had 72 and called it i think this is a crazy call phill played without him cards i think mike must had some move but he was so passive just called it sometimes need aggresive play |
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| Yea im a little surprised that Mike folded here, but he did say before he folded that he makes those big river bets with hands, so he must of been worried there. Also obv you are all going to say you would call: you saw what happened and you never play for this kind of money so you can't just say you would call |
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| knowing phil he probably played the hand more for braggin rights than for the extra 500 from everyone and would probably be pissed if mike called his almost pot bet on the river lolz if you guys know wat i mean ^^ but mike has fold some very monsters hand b4 against people hold 2 pairs or set on flop so one of those times he not right but its okay he still plays well |
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