Phil Hellmuth is kind of bad at the pokers

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Um... Hello?

ahhahahahahahahahaha wtf

I can't play the video from where I'm at, but if this is the Poker After Dark video, that "nobody" is an Internet player who was playing very tight up that point. I don't think he wanted to make any mistakes for the cameras.

I think the kid was only aggressive twice up to this point. Once was when he had K/T for a flopped Broadway (when the flop paired Hellmuth's A and J).

I don't think it was a bad play on Hellmuth's part. It goes right along with his "let them push me, then punish them" strategy.

In this series, Hellmuth gets HU with Gavin, then runs into cold decks and bad beats to lose. (I noticed that his luck improved when Matusow showed back up, but went away as soon as Matusow left)

I just love PH - He's hilarious in a non funny kind of way.

I love how right after Mike saw the hand, you could tell he was like how in the #$%& are you not already in the pot?

Funny hand

hahah that is a good one he ok but hes not ok u know what im saying i think phil ivry is better

well phil hellmuth is some kind of idol for me, the best tournament holdem in the world. dunno why so many people in the world dont like him, hes tha man!

Phil Hellmuth is the best(not my favorite) Holdem player at the moment. Yes, he usually plays tournaments. If he has seen Featherstone raise only twice in the whole game then you have to give him credit and Phil really thought he had kings or aces. Phil usually makes the right moves/decisions, but one wrong doest make him bad or stupid player.

saw that episode, he's just horsing arounf imo

makes me feel bad when i stack queens 100 bb's deep in 6 max

Is this a joke?

Phill Helmuth whines way too much about other people's play. He keeps on telling others how great he is and how bad they are. He's so cocky that I loose all my respect for him even though he won all those tournaments. He always has an excuse when he looses

wait wasnt this just posted in another thread?

This is so wrong. He's not even the best tournament player, actually.

http://www.cardschat.com/f53/hellmut...ing-qq-129462/ (http://www.cardschat.com/f53/hellmuth-folding-qq-129462/)

i tihnk this is it

No one reads that forum.

I don't think it was really that bad of a fold.

He put the kid on a top hand because he had not been playing any hands.

The raise was 1800, Phil was the short stack with about 9,000 he said. He knows he can't call. If he calls, the rest goes in on the flop no matter what. He thinks hes beat already and would rather save his 1800 for a better spot.

Not really that bad of a fold, just took too long to make a decision.

ye thats the problem

Actually, it's a pretty bad fold considering his stack size, and it's a winner take all tournament.

first of all of course knowing the cards, everybody is saying what a bad fold, but could also have been a great fold, maybe he a read on the guy feeling that he had the best hand.. there is another example where doyle brunson folds the better flush to Jamie Golds worse flush simply cause Brunson felt that Jamie Gold was thinking he had the best hand...

secondly the blowup in poker after dark is pretty good, but u know sheiky is a badass, he is an expert in clashing with people cause his ego is as big as phils, however he isnt half as good of a player

lol @ not a bad fold. He is short stack, he has the 3rd best hand in poker, he has to outright win the tournament to make any money and he is going to "wait for a better spot?" :S

Phil is just a hoot. The kid makes a standard 3BB raise into Phil who is holding AN ACTUAL HAND. Granted, the kid is projecting a super tight image, but c'mon, 6 handed table and only Sexton left after Phil.

Phil needs to take a long vacation from poker and try and get to a point where he does not out-think himself.

lol this is true

You're right. Phil is "kind of bad at the pokers". Just ask his 11 WSOP bracelets and they will tell you the same thing.

even if the kid has aces, its still a bad fold in the long run

The kid had only raised once preflop the whole tournament. I think it would be fair to assume he would only be raising with AK, KK, or AA. If Hellmuth really thought that, it wouldn't be a bad fold.

So? Live tournaments last like 80 hands. They were probably an hour, aka 20 hands, in.

Oh noes! He won a bunch of tournaments with 100 entrants! Let's give him a gold star!

Phil is so irksome he's comical.

Gavin Smith was at the table to.......Phil didn't notice.........lol

I want to see Phil oneday get so mad and throw his hat at someone or somthing, on camera. that would hilarious i think.

True, I think most of his bracelets were won with very small fields. Even the ME fields were like 200 or less.

The QQ fold was terrible, even calling to see a flop would have been a better choice, start with 9k, if it comes AK5, he still has 7.2k left.

Still thats a shitty choice too, in a WTA format you just insta shove in this spot.

OMGPHILLIPYOUSUCK.

They were on like the 3rd blind level so the sample size is ridiculously small. The thing is with phil is that he waits until he has 5bb's waiting for a 'better spot' then ships it in when he finally gets aces, gets called by someone with pocket 3's becuase he has awsome odds, then complains at his ridiculous luck

No its not a joke, its just my opinion. He has 11 bracelets(all in Holdem, ye small fields, but best players), record WSOP cashes and he is in his 40s.

You said best player though, do you believe he is better than:

Brunson, Negreanu, Ivey, Antonius, Gold (yes that one WAS a joke)?

And that's not even getting into the top internet players. He's not a bad tournament player, and note that most tournaments he gets deep in is against a lot of fish. But him at a table with other top pros and he gets eaten alive imo. Sure he's probably better than me, and better than the majority of players out there. But to say he's the best in the world is stretching it a bit imo.