Perfect random

This is a discussion on Perfect random within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; Can anyone figure if this will work. 52 card deck random shuffle deal cards. As the cards are folded they get placed under the deck. ...
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  #1
17th November 2009, 5:57 PM
cracked aces
 
Perfect random

Can anyone figure if this will work.
52 card deck random shuffle deal cards. As the cards are folded they get placed under the deck. random shuffle.so on&so on. There should be no shuffling of the deck while the hand is beeing played.Also put down 3 burn cards witch will not be shown to anybody.
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  #2
17th November 2009, 6:03 PM
burntrider
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: HU Anything
Doesn't Ultimate Bet use this in their software?
  #3
17th November 2009, 6:47 PM
jordanbillie
 
Online Poker at: Cake
Game: PLO/O8
I thought full tilt continued "shuffling" while that hand was in play.
  #4
30th November 2009, 4:40 PM
cracked aces
 
re: Perfect random poker

Why do poker sites keep shuffling while the hand is being played that is not perfect random it takes the % out of a players game.Cards have always Ben played with percentages% as a guide line for accurate play.
  #5
30th November 2009, 4:47 PM
cracked aces
 
full tilt&Pokerstars are the biggest sites that shuffle cards while your playing the hand that alone tells me that they are not player friendly.
  #6
30th November 2009, 8:44 PM
IcyBlueAce
 
Poker at: FTP, DR, BD
Game: Holdem'
Quote:
Originally Posted by cracked aces
Why do poker sites keep shuffling while the hand is being played that is not perfect random it takes the % out of a players game.Cards have always Ben played with percentages% as a guide line for accurate play.
Well they did it for people who can see into the future -- if they keep the deck shuffling then its nearly impossible for them to see the accurate future.

Unless they moved the mouse exactly just right, clicked called folded as the precise time needed, their powers are no use for the ever shuffling deck of cards.

Thats why you only see them play live.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cracked aces
full tilt&Pokerstars are the biggest sites that shuffle cards while your playing the hand that alone tells me that they are not player friendly.
That makes no sense, the longterm outcomes all will equal the same results. Like I mentioned, they do it for those people who can see cards into the future.
  #7
30th November 2009, 10:29 PM
OzExorcist
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
I'm pretty sure this has been covered a bunch of times before so I'll make this quick.

Burn cards are only burned to address a very specific live poker issue - marked cards. There's no such thing as a marked card online so there's absolutely no point in replicating burn cards online.

To demonstrate how silly this is, online poker "dealers" don't use a cutting card either, but live poker dealers do. Should we write and complain to the online poker sites about how their deals are wrong because they don't use a cutting card?

Folded hands should never be put back into the bottom of the deck either*. There's a seperate muck pile for them.

Continuous shuffling makes absolutely no practical difference to the outcome of a hand. The flop, turn and river are all random in a live game. They're random in an online game with a set deck. And they're random in an online game with continuous shuffling.

* Or at least not in hold 'em or stud games. Some draw games allow folded hands to be shuffled back into the deck if you run out of cards during one of the drawing rounds.
  #8
1st December 2009, 12:09 AM
Johnnybmoto
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem
re: Perfect random poker

Full tilt is constantly shuffled, pokerstars is like a casino, minus the burn cards of course.
 



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