Outs Quiz Question/Poll

#1 23rd February 2010, 6:13 AM

I'm curious how people answer this because you will be surprised how some players will overlook outs. So, this is a question about a particular scenario. Player A who is shortstacked goes all in with Qs, Js. Player B pushes all in to isolate with Ks, Kc. The flop and turn is:

Qc, Jh, 10d, 3c.

Now, I ask you, how many outs does Player B have?

#2 23rd February 2010, 6:18 AM

I count 16

Snow

#3 23rd February 2010, 6:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowmobiler

I count 16

Snow

^ This.

If you want to make counting outs more difficult, do it against a range.

#4 23rd February 2010, 6:54 AM

I'm just curious don't most polls have the correct answer as a choice?? I mean even if they don't put the correct answer in the thread at least put none of the above.

I get 16 also.

#5 23rd February 2010, 7:10 AM

9999 AAAA KK 333 TTT

#6 23rd February 2010, 7:23 AM

definitely bastard, or maybe cake. this is a hard one.

#7 23rd February 2010, 7:59 AM

16. And cake, since I STILL don't know what the hell bastard is.

#8 23rd February 2010, 8:11 AM

Well it sure isn't cake.

#9 23rd February 2010, 8:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grossberger

I'm just curious don't most polls have the correct answer as a choice?? I mean even if they don't put the correct answer in the thread at least put none of the above.

I get 16 also.

#10 23rd February 2010, 10:38 AM

lol missed the 9's, newborn babies make you tired fwiw lol

#11 23rd February 2010, 11:20 AM

I'll assume Cake is 16 outs, so my answer is Cake.

If, on the other hand, you are player A the answer is enough outs to make you close your eyes for 10 seconds then look to see if you still have chips.

#12 23rd February 2010, 11:41 AM

16 / bastard

#13 23rd February 2010, 11:49 AM

This is how I feel about this thread

#14 23rd February 2010, 12:09 PM

Might be good to construct a new scenario with multiple draws and partial outs? May be interesting to see the response of others and particularly for the OP. I am at Uni and am feeling a bit lazy therefore cannot be arsed to do it myself :P If someone else can be bothered I'm happy to offer my two pence again later today

#15 23rd February 2010, 12:25 PM

16 Cakes please

#16 23rd February 2010, 1:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK

9999 AAAA KK 333 TTT

^^this

I voted cake as the correct answer is not in the poll .

4+4+2+3+3 = 16

#17 23rd February 2010, 1:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t1riel

I'm curious how people answer this because you will be surprised how some players will overlook outs. So, this is a question about a particular scenario. Player A who is shortstacked goes all in with Qs, Js. Player B pushes all in to isolate with Ks, Kc. The flop and turn is:

Qc, Jh, 10d, 3c.

Now, I ask you, how many outs does Player B have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grossberger

I'm just curious don't most polls have the correct answer as a choice?? I mean even if they don't put the correct answer in the thread at least put none of the above.

I get 16 also.

Way too funny!

#18 23rd February 2010, 2:13 PM

Since I have no idea what "cake" and "bastard" are... and I didn't find them in poker terminology lists ... and the right answer is not up there in numbers... dopey poll.

It wasn't a dopey question, though. Not very hard for some, but still a good exercise.

#19 23rd February 2010, 2:32 PM

well i get 16 aswell so u must be a bastard 4 not putting the rigth answer lol

#20 23rd February 2010, 2:50 PM

Counting ITT

#21 23rd February 2010, 3:50 PM

16 bastards

#22 23rd February 2010, 5:35 PM

I vote cake w/ 16 outs...

#23 23rd February 2010, 5:42 PM

Bastard FTW!

#24 23rd February 2010, 5:54 PM

I get 16... 3 3s, 3 10s, 4 As, 2 Ks, 4 9s..

#25 23rd February 2010, 6:18 PM

No assigning numeric values to cake/bastard you bastards!

also: and I mean absolutely no offense to the OP... but if you can't do this fairly quickly and reliably then practice it till you can! Being able to count outs when you know exact whole cards is not difficult (or shouldn't be).... cause to be honest, all you are doing is counting.

having said that, we never (well rarely) know what our opponent exactly has so we have to count outs vs a range, which is considerably trickier..

#26 23rd February 2010, 6:20 PM

lol and the right answer not being there

#27 23rd February 2010, 6:21 PM

bastard/cake/ 16..did u make a typo when putting the answers in?

#28 23rd February 2010, 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grafkarow

I voted cake as the correct answer is not in the poll .

The correct answer is there - it is 'cake'

#29 23rd February 2010, 6:43 PM

It's cake, because cake is for sweet sixteen.

Four Aces for a straight.
Four 9's for a straight.
Two Kings for trips.
Three 10's for a bigger two pair.
Three 3's for a bigger two pair.

#30 23rd February 2010, 7:29 PM

Bastards stop voting for bastard, cake is correct... L@@K @ SavagePenguins Post!!! It is correct!

#31 23rd February 2010, 9:24 PM

/...im not sure how to add other options..3 10's. 3 3's. 2k's 4 9's 4 Aces..

4+4+3+3+2= differnt asnwer than available
im sure there is another point to this

#32 23rd February 2010, 9:24 PM

im wrong...i didnt know cake meant sweet sixteen..how bad am i

#33 23rd February 2010, 9:39 PM

Not as bad as you think.

#34 23rd February 2010, 10:51 PM

Tim pm'd me last night asking to change the 15 outs to 16, but unfortunately I had already logged off for the night, and didn't see his message until now. Sorry Tim! So you see, it's really all my fault...

I guess it's kind of a moot point to edit it now?

#35 4th March 2010, 11:20 PM

Oh well, it turns out everyone knew what the correct answer was anyway...Cake!

: How many outs does Player B have?
2 Outs		1.52%
6 Outs		7.58%
9 Outs		0%
12 Outs		22.73%
15 Outs		4.55%
Cake		28.79%
Bastard		34.85%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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