Outrage

I am old school...

I express anger when an idiot calls three successive bets to the river on a paired board, only to find he is drawing to an inside straight... and sucks out.

I am not talking about small wagers... I am talking about calling pot-sized bet before the flop, pot and-a-half on the flop, double pot and all-in.... on a pot where two have called a 10X raise.

I don't care when it is just a freeroll, because I make stupid plays in freerolls all the time... I'm talking about real cash games.

What does the forum feel about loosing a tirade in lobby chat when one crosses idiots in real cash games?

That anyone who doesn't want idiots calling big raises chasing dreams of hitting gutshots is as daft as they are.

Getting annoyed about it is like complaining about the fish jumping on the hook.

Keep in mind that the occasional win is what keeps them coming back. As stated above, if the purpose is to get your opponent to make mistakes while minimizing yours, what are you complaining about? It hurts when someone lucks out but all you can attempt to control is your play, not the results. When you make a mistake & get your money in as an underdog & win do you apologize profusely for being a donk or do you just think well that's poker & forget all about it. Maybe you don't but most do. It's a game, control your self & your actions, enjoy the game & keep the suckouts in perspective.

let me state it in a manner that you will comprehend...

you are at the pub, downing a few pints and your last fifty pounds are on the table in a 'friendly game'.

You draw AA and raise 10X BB. Two callers. Flop comes 993, you bet 150% pot, one calls... you suspect a 9?

Turn comes Q... you bet now huge pot-sized bet and get called again. You are pot committed. You put last chips in after the turn shows a TEN.

You turn over your AA and the idiot turns J8 with no flush possible. Do you quietly congratulate your opponent on a fine play or do you politely ask him to bugger-off?

I think he got it the first time. His point is that these are the people that feed your bankroll. You don't want them to be scared off by you going off on them after a bad beat and you definitely don't want them to start playing better.

To me it's better to just keep your mouth shut knowing that if you continue playing good poker and they stay at the table, the chips will come back to you.

If you want people to agree with you please state this in your original post.

If you want opinions then accept them with good grace when they are given.

Emotion and poker don't mix, getting angry is one of the signs of a bad player with long-term negative expectation.

(for the record I didn't give the negative rep)

hmmmm, 3 sucessive hands. That guy woke up in a field of 4 leaf clovers.

You congratulate him because these stupid mistakes by our opponents are how the better players are able to MAKE MORE MONEY in the long run. What about that do you not comprehend?

Personally I would learn from his good fortune and instead of criticizing his play, join him next time in this obviously wonderful tactic by overbetting my hand. I would then bemoan the particular site I am playing at for sending me such lousy cards and not allowing me my turn at a good suck out or a nice bad beat like everyone else has been granted. With my diminished chip stack I would ponder my next move. Which, since I am now severly short stacked, I would go all in on anything and shake my head at the Poker God's and ask "Why me?".

Or the second option is like I tell my wife (I sometimes don't listen to my own advice). Play your own hand and know that playing the odds patiently will in the long run overshadow relying purely on luck.

OP just wants a little sympathy guys.........
He deserves it too, I mean.....yes we all want fish......they pad our roll.....they help us make money.....yadda yadda yadda, no emotions, no results oriented play......blah blah blah........

You guys wanna tell me you wouldn't look up at that guy and say "WTF were you doing calling those bets?!?!?"
I think not..........
Now that may have been in your head and you may have just looked across the table and said "nice hand" but in your brain you would be throwing that fuk under a bus.

My two cents. (cause that's all I got)

Think it, yes. "Loose a tirade" in the lobby or pub or start calling people idiots, no.

Get snarky and patronise people who venture their opinion in a forum when asked for it, definately not.

Bad beats suck, but telling people they are idiots for calling bets when they get lucky lacks class.

Think it yes.......agreed, never would want to look like an ass in public.
not more than I usually do.....

You can view this as a style of play. One that could easily be picked off. Roll with the punches and hopefully you're careful and lucky enough to take him/her out before he/she does you. That's what I say...

you are stupid to keep betting like that on each street if you are getting callers. what's the positive side of overbetting the pot?

Agreed. Think it yes. But, I wouldn't say anything public. I might tell my wife about it using some terms I wouldn't in church. But thats about it.

lol

Hera, look at it this way...

Perhaps you need to adjust your play to the villains you're facing... remember, the number one rule in poker is know thy opponent! If you KNOW you're facing idiots who chase gutshots and occasionally suck out, and if you KNOW you're throwing bets out there that are probably going to get auto-called without being considered by a rational thinking poker player, then why bet that way?

You're not facing Helmuth or Haschem or even Juanda here, but rather Mr Sanchez or Mrs Waverly sitting in front of his/her computer screen on a day off, fending off the little ones while wagering a couple of bucks as a past time. Play accordingly.

I'm not trying to be cruel here because I certainly do understand where you're coming from, but seriously man, realize that you're not at the WSOP or the WPT but on an online poker site. You'll just have to adjust your game appropriately so that you don't put so much money into a pot where a fishie could possibly bite you back.

to you, I do owe an apology for my snarky comment... so I am sorry for that.

I am new, only to this site... not to online or the card-rooms.

While I have refused to extend a hand to such idiots as I describe, I have never refused one extended... though I have muttered under my breath something along the lines as "you're a f***ing genius" or some other witty retort.

Online, however, where chat is used to rub salt in a wound or tilt an opponent I have launched a tirade or three at such stupidity... at the risk of my own dignity, anonymity is a wonderful thing.

It is at once good and bad, the gentrification of this game... the massive influx of fresh fish has fattened my bankroll... but I miss the days when you could be assured that a card room was a refuge for adults who can handle sarcasm and criticism as well as they handle their drink... or not.

I miss the camaraderie... the comfort of unspoken rules... The new cardrooms are massive 'McDonaldizations' of the backroom clubs I know and love. And while they are great for tournaments, I feel that they should place a placard at the door - "You must be THIS TALL to enter here"... It feels like a day trip to Disneyland.

Face to face you can read a person... online, words can be misinterpreted or mis-stated as I constantly do. I meant no disrespect... but I DID mean to stir the pot.



Now you kids get offa my lawn!

not your lawn.....please don't step on the flowers.

I feel the same way at times and all I can do about it is have a few friends over for a home game, when I play on-line poker and I suffer a badbeat, such as the one you described earlier I get really pissed when its a ring game, but lately, I've been playing micro-tourneys and SnGs to combat the huge losses I received at ring games.
I can't handle those bad players at the ring games so I've taken to the tourneys and SnGs, the fish are still there and If I suffer a badbeat there and lose all my chips to a chaser then the only loss I really suffer is the buy-in.
I may have rambled and this may not make much sense to you and if it does make sense and you know where I'm going with this then take my advice and do as I do and play more SnGs and tourneys.

I say get over it. People whine too much.