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27-09-2007, 10:18 PM
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This will happen approximately 1 in 5 times, so if you've played 1.2 million+ hands, you've seen happen at least a couple hundred times (given in real life I can remember this happening 3 times JUST TO ME in the last summer, probably played around 1-2k hands, just a rough estimate). What's so shocking?
OK! Your win% was 99.7% atleast!!!!!! i think there`s something rigged. LOL! |
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27-09-2007, 10:23 PM
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29-09-2007, 9:35 PM
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How much profit do you guys make?
How much profit do you guys make?
Say each week, and not including any redeposits, just total profit and what games are best to start e.g. ring or tournament? Is it possible to make a consistent profit from online sites? What are the best sites to make money from? Thanks, its just everyone i know loses. |
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29-09-2007, 9:53 PM
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 Pretty funny that pegagus and joblack are the same person. Amazing how the conspiracy theorist needs to pull a set up to try to bolster his claims... |
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29-09-2007, 10:07 PM
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06-10-2007, 7:59 PM
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It is all rigged.
I'm the fella that does the rigging. |
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07-10-2007, 3:24 PM
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Wow, this is one of the best threads on internet about rigged/not rigget internet poker (and yes, I've read them all
 )I played in more then 15 different poker rooms, and I can say I've noticed that card dealing (shuffling) and starting hand card value isn't same in every room. For example, in some rooms AJ has no value at all, and should be folded preflop. Also in certain rooms, two pairs on flop should be folded in 98% of cases ... etc I didn't played live poker much, only few times, but I believe there are folks on this forum who did. I would like to know what do they think, which internet poker sites offer most close experience to real life poker ? |
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07-10-2007, 4:23 PM
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And more importantly why? |
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07-10-2007, 4:42 PM
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Why ?? Because when I have AJ, somebody else have AQ or AK, when I have two pairs - somebody else have flopped set, straight or flush, and when I have QQ ... well, just look the picture ...  |
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07-10-2007, 4:52 PM
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Why would they do it is what I meant.
Is it possible you are just overrating certain hands? AJ and two pair are both notoriously vulnerable. |
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07-10-2007, 5:18 PM
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Yea, sometimes I feel it's rigged. But I usually feel this way after a bad beat. These poker sites are making millions. There's no need to rig for a few extra bucks. I've also watched pros play online and they get bad beats just like us and I don't hear them complaing. Of course, they are probably getting some kind of kickback from the sites they play but thats neither here nor there. And theres even some sites ( Absolute & Ultimate) that are running jackpots for certain bad beats. There's just to much on the line for these poker sites to try anything like this. The main problem is that the majority of online players are FISH and play almost anything and thats what causes alot of the bad beats.
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07-10-2007, 5:23 PM
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nice post, i worry more about players cheating more then i do these sites really
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08-10-2007, 1:40 AM
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nice post i agree.. 1 point id like to bring up, that everyone is saying in these posts "There's no need to rig for a few extra bucks" Point 1. its not a few extra bucks, 40 billion revenue per year i heard somewhere, and i think thats just the UK, so if they rig like 10% of their hands whats that like 4 billion? extra... that pays for expenses paid out to run the sites... and turns the industry into pure profit...?? oh and btw i am of the strict opinion that poker sites are not rigged. |
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10-01-2008, 11:25 PM
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Rigged or Not
Indeed you feel crap after a BB but i play a lot at pokerstars and i am sure there is something going on with the dealing process.
There is just too much fireworks going on. I am not saying they are rigged but manipulated is a better statement i think. First the shuffling process with a computer is never the same as a live deck shuffle. I will not explain the whole story why but computers just can't do this. This is why pokersites change there shuffling method every two weeks. The reason why I got interested in investigate this matter is that I kept loosing hands like AK vs AQ or lower kickers and over pairs against lower pocket pairs. We all know the statistics and that you can lose your over pairs against the lower pocket pairs. but in my case I lost 7 out of 10 hands the last year and this is just not right. We started an experiment and we are looking for people who will contribute to see if online poker is profitable on long term. So if you have stats or hand histories to post feel free. |
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17-01-2008, 6:40 AM
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online poker is rigged,bot,and hacked
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17-01-2008, 5:39 PM
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^^^^ there is no need to put a comma between 'bot' and 'and'. Due to poor grammar, I decide to ignore your post.
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18-01-2008, 1:57 AM
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Is poker rigged??
I 'm just wondering..has anyone done a comparison between sites. For example is there more action on some sites rather than others and if so why. Are sets, flush draws etc, hitting more frequently on particular sites, are big cards hitting flop more than other sites. I would like to know if they are all the same because I don't think so, and if that is the case then some sites are generating action flops therefore the flops could be predetemined which suggests all is not well with online poker. I played pokerstars, full tilt, prima, b2b and well to put it mildly some of the stuff i see on pokerstars is a over the top! I've never seen it on the other sites as blatantly as PS and I'm starting to wonder. So if there is any paperwork out there which proves they are all the same, i'd like to see it.
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18-01-2008, 7:30 AM
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How about we do this the other way around: You go ahead and prove that they're NOT the same.
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18-01-2008, 8:23 AM
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18-01-2008, 1:05 PM
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for me , im not sure if an online poker site is rigged or not but most of the time when you think of it , its so hard to say that it isnt rigged , on the other hand its too difficult to prove that it is unless your in it. If your going to play , just play and dont gamble make it just a pass time and if you choose to gamble play somewhere else not online , play where you think it is fair.
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19-01-2008, 2:13 AM
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Why would anyone think its rigged?
I cant for the life of me figure out why anyone would think online poker is rigged for the weak hand to "suckout"..I mean, just look at this CD Poker hand. Talk about coincidental. Thats poker. Rightttttttt.
stoneagekyuss: rigged for the donkeys so much its almost laughable stoneagekyuss: keeps the money spread out Dealer: Winner is Silli5001 $1.56 Dealer: Winner is Silli5001 $1.56 Dealer: dior76 is the dealer Dealer: Starting a new hand (#632627469) Dealer: Starting a new hand (#632627469) Dealer: Dealing cards Dealer: Your cards Ah Ac lolziballz: nonsense stoneagekyuss: yeah watch this <He raised - I reraise his A-10 for his whole stack, he calls. Dealer: Dealing Flop Ts 7s Th Dealer: Dealing Turn Ts 7s Th 6c Dealer: Dealing River Ts 7s Th 6c 6h Dealer: Umbro1904 shows Full house Ad Tc Dealer: stoneagekyuss shows Two Pair Ah Ac Dealer: Umbro1904 wins with Full house 6h 6c Th Ts Tc $9.60 Dealer: Umbro1904 wins with Full house 6h 6c Th Ts Tc $9.60 Silli5001: LOL Dealer: Silli5001 is the dealer Dealer: Starting a new hand (#632627742) Dealer: Starting a new hand (#632627742) stoneagekyuss: voila Dealer: Dealing cards dior76: lol Umbro1904: oh my god Dealer: Your cards Th As lolziballz: ahahaha Silli5001: man, U RULE  lolziballz: best "watch this ever" Silli5001: LOLOLOLOL lolziballz: that was brilliant lolziballz: haha Dealer: Dealing Flop 8c 2d 8s stoneagekyuss: god damned card rigging crooks lolziballz: i had the other 10 aswell <This guy even admits to having the other ten. Have at it boys and girls. |
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19-01-2008, 3:51 AM
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is online poker rigged?
Well thanks for the replies, some very good, to those of you who think it's a load of BS, well I'm sorry you think we live in a perfect world. Just think of any poker site as business orientated company,,what's the main objective...make money...increase profits..increase margins...greed!!.
I think there should be a totally independent body to monitor these sites, so that as players we can 100% faith in the knowledge that there is someone looking out for the interests of the poker player. Only then will suspicion cease. |
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19-01-2008, 3:58 AM
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if it is rigged in cash game (but a good player will loose in tourneys and sit and goes if it is rigged) Only site I do not like is full tilt. |
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19-01-2008, 3:58 AM
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there are independent bodies that monitor poker sites,.....
do some more research and u will find the answer |
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19-01-2008, 4:08 AM
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every time one of you posts a hand like this as some kind of "proof", you're essentially saying "AN EVENT THAT IS 10% TO OCCUR SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN". do you realize how braindead you are? i've seen one outers in live poker. i've seen K8 beat KK in live poker and A7 beat AA, all in preflop. i've seen river royal flushes in live poker. i've seen quads over quads in live poker. there are only 52 cards in a deck and 13 different ranks. that's NOT MANY i guess you geniuses think people are never supposed to win the lottery either, because for any one person individually it's a one in a million shot. step 1: take a course in statistics step 2: get better at poker. there have been polls where 75% of people estimated they were "above average" intelligence. by definition, a ton of these people are wrong. similarly, virtually every player thinks they play well enough at poker to be a winning player. by definition, a ton of these people are wrong. that's the beauty of the luck aspect of poker! so many of the fish never realize they're fish because their selective memory blames the bad luck. so they keep playing hoping they won't be "unlucky"! many of you in this thread are the fish and you don't realize it. so we keep taking your money. where do you think all the money goes? over the long run it goes to better players than you |
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yeah thats poker.
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19-01-2008, 7:14 PM
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As far as finding people to confirm that online poker can be profitable in the long term, I guess I'm qualified there to contribute to your experiment. What exactly do you want from me? I don't think posting all my hand histories over hundreds of thousands or even millions of hands would be practical, but for stats, you could find threads where people post their pokertracker results over many tens of thousands of hands. There are millions of people who make a profit from online poker. |
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20-01-2008, 11:26 AM
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Who is braindead?
Post isnt about AA losing to A-10. Its about saying its rigged for the weak hand, someone saying thats nonsense, then getting dealt AA, saying yeah watch this, and then losing to A-10 despite the fact the fourth ten was out. WAKE UP.
Ive seen people flop straight flushes, so what? The post is about my knowing the AA was going to lose regardless of what the other guy held. Like you say, the money goes to the better players. Probably 20% of the players, close enough? Ok so what happens to the poker room when the other 80% of players lose all their money? THEY GO UNDER. Gotta keep that money spread out. I dont care what hand beats what hand, I care when I know exactly what will happen when Im dealt the monster starter. Braindead indeed. YOU PEOPLE ARE BRAINDEAD every time one of you posts a hand like this as some kind of "proof", you're essentially saying "AN EVENT THAT IS 10% TO OCCUR SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN". do you realize how braindead you are? i've seen one outers in live poker. i've seen K8 beat KK in live poker and A7 beat AA, all in preflop. i've seen river royal flushes in live poker. i've seen quads over quads in live poker. there are only 52 cards in a deck and 1 |
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