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  Poker - "OMG IT'S RIGGED"-An indepth look at whiners
 
  #1  
18-05-2007, 2:22 PM
shinedown.45
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"OMG IT'S RIGGED"-An indepth look at whiners

For the longest time we have had ppl whining about alot of things, "My job sucks, school sucks, I have a rough life"...etc.
Well it seems that most have something new to whine about, yes you guessed it, poker. So I took a look at what all the whining was about and found that there are players who actually think on-line poker is rigged and constantly whine about it and yet don't have the will power or are just to stupid to quit and are content to keep playing and whine about how rigged it is.
I play poker online as well and have not found concrete evidence to support their theories so I took upon myself to see these ppl that are constantly complaining and how they play the game.
One person in particular has been a sponsored player which I found quite fascinating.

shinedown.45-"What makes you think online poker is rigged?"

Iknowthetruth-"The flop cards are determined after the initial bets are made. Its pretty obvious"

shinedown.45-"How so?"

Iknowthetruth-"Action cards, thats how"

shinedown.45-"I have seen a couple of hands you had played and to be honest, you played those hands poorly, did you really think you should have bet your A-10 like that?"

Iknowthetruth-"last time I looked, A10 dominates"

shinedown.45-"You really suck at poker dude"

Iknowthetruth-"I'm a sponsored online player, they only use players that suck"

shinedown.45-"Glad I don't need sponsorship, thanks for your time"

Iknowthetruth-"Adios and good luck at the tables"

There goes a nice guy, a little mentally unbalanced but a nice guy just the same.
Another player I happened to bump into was in a hand so I only had time for one question:

shinedown.45-"What do you think of the talk thats going on about online poker?"

The Weevel-"Is it rigged? Who knows, but I think something is definitely starting to smell here!"

shinedown.45-"My apologies, my wifes cooking"

I had never asked him much more than that as I was too embarrassed to stay.
After talking to a few more whiners, I have come to the conclusion that online poker is not rigged its just that the whiners are just regular poker players who haven't learned to adapt to on-line play or they just suck at online poker.
These same whiners suffer from some sort of separation anxiety, it seems they miss their mom.
Conclusion: Anybody who claims poker is rigged, it really means they miss their momand suck at online poker.
 

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  #2  
18-05-2007, 2:40 PM
dakota-xx
I give up.....
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinedown.45

These same whiners suffer from some sort of separation anxiety, it seems they miss their mom.
Conclusion: Anybody who claims poker is rigged, it really means they miss their momand suck at online poker.
However, there is evidence that you can still miss your mom, suck at online poker - and not claim it is rigged.

So it really puts this group in a special category.
  #3  
18-05-2007, 2:51 PM
4Aces
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I have not fully decided if i think online poker is rigged or not.
But im not going to quit because i am making a slow and steady profit.

I have been playing about the same amount of hands, online and live per week for about 1 year now, im not really sure what it is but the cards do seem different online.
For example, this is no lie, every day for the last week i have seen quads on pokerstars, now im not sure what the odds are of getting quads by the river but it just seem to much online.
  #4  
18-05-2007, 4:24 PM
Madness_does
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Maybe people are mistaking the the monster hands for the word being rigged, obviously this poster does not have to much time on live tables.

Lets face facts there is something very wrong with the odds with online poker, too many monster flops period, there is no denying that crap, I think that people that fight against these outrageous hands dont understand one thing, and that thing is they dont know jack crap about business, online poker sites are there to make money, and the more monster hands that 2 or more players get the more money that goes into the pot= more money for the poker site. "rake"

Forget online poker being rigged, forget that players collude and talk to each other, forget the fact that the odds dont even come close to real life. How about everyone get thier head out thier arse and look at it from a business point of view, they are here to make money and as much money as they can, how do you do that well alot of people are saying the same thing, that the hands are juiced big time. My advice is only play freerolls and build your bankroll that way, keep your real cash for live poker play.

As far as the whining is concerned, I figured out a great way for that, just dont put any of your money into any site, play free rolls. Still fun to play online poker and I wont make anymore new posts on if its rigged or not, I will just go with the flow on the freerolls, that way if I do loose my bankroll it was free money anyway.
  #5  
18-05-2007, 4:29 PM
shinedown.45
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Location: Winnipeg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinedown.45
For the longest time we have had ppl whining about alot of things, "My job sucks, school sucks, I have a rough life"...etc.
Well it seems that most have something new to whine about, yes you guessed it, poker. So I took a look at what all the whining was about and found that there are players who actually think on-line poker is rigged and constantly whine about it and yet don't have the will power or are just to stupid to quit and are content to keep playing and whine about how rigged it is.
I play poker online as well and have not found concrete evidence to support their theories so I took upon myself to see these ppl that are constantly complaining and how they play the game.
One person in particular has been a sponsored player which I found quite fascinating.

shinedown.45-"What makes you think online poker is rigged?"

Iknowthetruth-"The flop cards are determined after the initial bets are made. Its pretty obvious"

shinedown.45-"How so?"

Iknowthetruth-"Action cards, thats how"

shinedown.45-"I have seen a couple of hands you had played and to be honest, you played those hands poorly, did you really think you should have bet your A-10 like that?"

Iknowthetruth-"last time I looked, A10 dominates"

shinedown.45-"You really suck at poker dude"

Iknowthetruth-"I'm a sponsored online player, they only use players that suck"

shinedown.45-"Glad I don't need sponsorship, thanks for your time"

Iknowthetruth-"Adios and good luck at the tables"

There goes a nice guy, a little mentally unbalanced but a nice guy just the same.
Another player I happened to bump into was in a hand so I only had time for one question:

shinedown.45-"What do you think of the talk thats going on about online poker?"

The Weevel-"Is it rigged? Who knows, but I think something is definitely starting to smell here!"

shinedown.45-"My apologies, my wifes cooking"

I had never asked him much more than that as I was too embarrassed to stay.
After talking to a few more whiners, I have come to the conclusion that online poker is not rigged its just that the whiners are just regular poker players who haven't learned to adapt to on-line play or they just suck at online poker.
These same whiners suffer from some sort of separation anxiety, it seems they miss their mom.
Conclusion: Anybody who claims poker is rigged, it really means they miss their momand suck at online poker.
This wasn't meant to be serious, it was suppose to be humourous but it seems no-one gets the humour in it.
  #6  
18-05-2007, 4:32 PM
Madness_does
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Well I do see the humor in it, the only thing I dont find funny is that there are too many monster flops, but thank goodness for free rolls.
  #7  
18-05-2007, 4:51 PM
Mojomax747
CardsChat Regular
 
Posts: 489
Someone chasing around, finding and then harrassing whiners like there is no tomorrow hanging on their every word and reporting what they say on a poker forum . Damn you had me fooled.
  #8  
18-05-2007, 5:51 PM
dj11
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At Last!, We now have proof that Shinedown is the rigger of whinny posts! Clearly, and with aforethought, he has been milking the run up to this post. For months, maybe even years, he must have been seeding the poker is rigged thoughts in the miniscule mind of freshly hatched fish. Shinedown must be running a hatchery!
  #9  
18-05-2007, 6:05 PM
dakota-xx
I give up.....
 
Location: canton, ga
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinedown.45
This wasn't meant to be serious, it was suppose to be humourous but it seems no-one gets the humour in it.

I thought it was funny.
  #10  
18-05-2007, 7:16 PM
reglardave
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The real moral to the story- Many people suck at missing their mommies.
  #11  
18-05-2007, 7:57 PM
4Aces
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LMAO at PokerStars!!!

Today i get quads then the next hand i flop a straight flush, then the next hand someone gets a royal flush!!
  #12  
18-05-2007, 8:05 PM
MrSticker
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Location: NoCal USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota-xx
However, there is evidence that you can still miss your mom, suck at online poker - and not claim it is rigged.

So it really puts this group in a special category.
I miss online poker, suck at checkers, and my mom is rigged. Where does that leave me?
  #13  
18-05-2007, 8:07 PM
Jack Daniels
Liquor Top / Poker Bottom
 
Location: Soldier Field
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSticker
I miss online poker, suck at checkers, and my mom is rigged. Where does that leave me?
You should immediately begin playing online checkers with dad.
  #14  
19-05-2007, 12:26 AM
Irexes
Im in ur tornamentz -
 
Location: Essex, UK
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wp Shine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madness_does
Well I do see the humor in it, the only thing I dont find funny is that there are too many monster flops, but thank goodness for free rolls.
Unlike the loch ness monster, UFOs or the yeti this is an observable and recorded phenomena which is readily provable if true through statistical analysis.

Even if you havn't conducted this analysis yourself, surely somone has. So can you please find us some evidence of the provable phenomena that you are claiming.

I only ask because your evidence to date is that "it's obvious".
  #15  
19-05-2007, 12:50 AM
NineLions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irexes
Unlike the loch ness monster, UFOs or the yeti this is an observable and recorded phenomena which is readily provable if true through statistical analysis.
My theory: You don't hear nearly as much about UFOs or the Yeti as you used to. Therefore, all the people who would in the past be talking about UFOs are now talking about how on-line poker is rigged.


btw, I thought it was funny Shine. + rep
  #16  
19-05-2007, 4:16 AM
Irexes
Im in ur tornamentz -
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NineLions
My theory: You don't hear nearly as much about UFOs or the Yeti as you used to. Therefore, all the people who would in the past be talking about UFOs are now talking about how on-line poker is rigged.
Maybe the Yeti, the loch ness monster and aliens are behind the rigging Nine.

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  #17  
19-05-2007, 5:10 AM
NineLions
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Here in western Canada the Yeti is a mascot for a beer company. He shows up in commercials stealing cases of beer.


I'm sure that all ties in, somehow. I just can't figure out how.
  #18  
19-05-2007, 5:27 PM
dj11
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Must be that the Yeti long ago ran the hatcheries, and being noted for steeling beer, and presumably drinking it, had weird sexual deviations, resulting in French Speaking Canadians sprouting 'OMG its rigged' conspiracy theories..................
  #19  
19-05-2007, 6:09 PM
Mojomax747
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Posts: 489
Shall we turn the tables a wee bit and ask the defenders of all things honest and above board to hand over their PROOF and overwhelming statistical evidence to substantiate their stance? You could prove the theorists wrong once and for all while doing the world a great service all at the same time, wow wouldnt that be wonderful. About UFOs, i was always of the opinion that they were part of everyday life, i mean consider this, if you got a pop on the nose from a disgruntled conspiracy theorist and the punch was just a blur to you, surely that would be considered as an unidentified flying object? Yeti and nessy well thats a different matter and maybe closer to the truth as both were/are a means for making money, just like poker sites.
  #20  
19-05-2007, 7:59 PM
quads
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Learn the online environment, and what's going on online. Read that new book "what no one else is saying about online poker" Interesting to say the least.
  #21  
19-05-2007, 8:46 PM
joker131
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poker rigging

do any of the online poker sites ever own up to card rigging or hand gigging not on your life , dont moan just search around until you find what your looking for in a poker site, my own preferences for sit&go are pacific partypoker, any i group....................joker131
 




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