No Warning!!! - Firepay no longer allow Canadians

Does this look familiar to our American friends. I didn't figure this would take too long. And really does this mean what I think it means.

Effective February 21, 2007, FirePay (FirePay.com - Instant. Safe. Secure.) will no longer allow Canadian consumer payments to online gambling merchants.

Effective February 28, 2007, FirePay (FirePay.com - Instant. Safe. Secure.) will no longer allow Canadian consumers to receive payments from online gambling merchants.

All Canadian FirePay account holders will continue to be able to make purchases and receive payments from non-gambling online merchants, as well as to "Deposit From" and "Withdraw To" their Canadian bank account.

Click here for a listing of non-gambling merchants that accept FirePay: FirePay.com - Instant. Safe. Secure.

For any questions regarding these deadlines or this policy, please email info@firepay.com
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Sincerely,
FirePay
info@firepay.com

I don't understand. Why are our friends from the North now being screwed. What do you guys have to do with it?

Weird. What is the situation in Canada ? Surely your legislature isn`t full of muppets too ? I haven`t heard anything about Canadian officialdom having a problem with gambling.

Quite a lot of sites (Bodog is the main one springs to mind) are licensed in Canada. Surely they are not under threat ?

dang aloe. it seems the "disease" in online poker is contagous and spreading rapidly

That's just weird. I don't know of any discussion about even possibly making online betting illegal.

Maybe they just don't like us 'cause we're too close to the US.

Firepay pulled out most probably because a lot of canadian money crosses the border which puts itr at risk from pychoman and his ring of clowns

Geez, looks like the Virus in spreading north,,, gets more sadder everyday,, does anyone know the Real reason behind this??? buck

Just because Canada is the US's hat, doesn't mean they should have to suffer like we do...(guys, I'm just kidding, you know I love my Canadian brother's and sisters ). But seriously, what the hell? That makes no sense at to me.

ROFLMAO!!....

just the thought of Hastert, Frisk, Lott et. al. lined up and all in unison


Meneh meneh
do do dodo do
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do dodo do
Meneh meneh
do do dodo do dodo do dodo do dodo do dodo do do dodo do

Just a reminder the Firepay thingy for Canadian's is Effective today!!!!

now the canadian governemnt is getting like senator frist here

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I only use Neteller so no problem here but it does seem weird. Is firepay an American company?

Def no signs of banning online gambling here in Canada. In fact the Alberta govt (where I live) is looking into setting up their own gambling/poker site!!!

Rut Rho! PQ now knows how to include images!!

i always did it was just i got stuck on the zipper.lol.now someone can teach me how to put a link in my text.( sorry no thread hijack here)

Wow - that really sucks.

Let's hope you don't get screwed the way the USA players were on Neteller. I unfortunately had just made a $600 withdrawal the day that the Neteller news broke ...

no need to say anything here!!!!!

lol bbb iwas stuck in a zipped file. must your mind always be on=^..^=.lol

I realize no high jack here PQ, any talk of ziipped files, attaching images, downloading anything I am so hungry for cause I am so illiterate and can't still do nothing. Its only been a couple of years now and I learned how to quote one person and pm them LMAO. Oh, by the way you ever get that picture I sent you 15 times?

lol. no apparently you can' do hot mail either.lol. i have to check email again

I use neteller not firepay so it doesnt really bother me. We have no signs of poker being banned.

WARNING! HIJACK ATTEMP BELOW
do ya mean like:
http://www.cardschat.com/f13/no-warn...anadians-78792 ????

1) Go to the address bar of the browser when the page you wnat to link is displayed and select all of it (the above link should be in your address bar RIGHT NOW...cause it's this page )

2) Copy it by either hitting Ctrl and C at the same time or select Copy from the Edit menu

3) Type Ctrl and V at the same time or select paste from the edit menu once you are in the Message: box or quick reply box.... poof! the link appears like magic!

thanks again pete.....

i still don't know how to do it aloe. gave me a headache trying to figure it out

Sometimes I just give up and go back to doing non productive posts cause Its not worth the same headache you got now. I guess we need a lesson in CC101, too keep up with these guys.

can someone unzip this for me?

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I can unzip it for you. Where would you like me to put it?

JD I don't even know what to say except..........

unzipped

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i'm sorry, why was that zipped to begin with? lol

i couldn't get it to open so i put it in a zipped file. thanks. jd and list (and aloe for being a smarty pants.lol.)( i was going to use that pic for the party poker thread)lol

I've attended the last few global gaming summits as well as some Canadian internet gambling conferences. I've had a chance to talk to all of the regulated jurisdictions in Canada and the top few canadian lawyers associated with online gambling. So I do have a lot of info about the Canadian situation. Here's where it stands.

- Playing online poker from your home in Canada is illegal. Period. This has come straight from the top Canadian online gaming lawyers.
- This law has never been enforced.
- Two of the five Canadian lottery jurisdictions (lotteries control almost all the gambling in Canada) have internet gaming sites. (Atlantic Canada and British Columbia). Neither of these sites currently offer poker.
- Ontario (the biggest province) is actively trying to ban internet gambling in an enforcable way. The current law is largely unenforcable. Very simlar to the US prior to July.
- Ontario is attempting to ban advertising for online gambling sites including .NET sites.
- The rest of the country often follows Ontario so if Ontario is successful in banning online gambling, national laws might not be too far behind.
- The US would prefer online gambling was illegal in Canada.
- Online gambling is a huge topic in British Columbia right now but no clear direction has been given.

- The gambling sites hosted in Canada aren't really hosted in Canada...well they are but it's complicated...

The Canadian hosted sites are on the Khanawakee Indian Reserve in Quebec. The hosting of these sites is illegal by the federal criminal code. Hosting gambling sites in Canada is completely illegal and enforacable.

However, Khanawakee poses two major problems for the feds. The first is that this is in Quebec which although is part of Canada, the feds don't like to mess with two much. There have been two failed referendums for this province to leave the country in the past 30 years and talks of another one are looming. So the feds don't want to do anything that the Quebec government could use to help sway opinion that leaving Canada is a good thing.

The second major problem is that the indian reserves in that region of Quebec have historically been a major problem area for the government. This reserve claims complete soverignty and have armed First Nations ready to defend it if necessary. There have been armed confrontations with police in the past. The First Nations situation in Canada is very dicey and the Federal government feels that executing warrants on the reserve could easily lead to armed confrontation..national headlines and the spark that causes a First Nations uprising in Canada. So although what Khanawakee is doing is illegal, they've been operating with inpunity due to the situation.

Canada's private sector is a leader in global internet gaming with Boss Media, Interlogic, Bodog and a ton of other tech and gambling companies based here. It's a large market that the government would be hesitant to destroy.

So..the situation in Canada is not exactly clear. It's definitely illegal but not enforced. Ontario is mainly the only province trying to enforce it now and Khanawakee is a wild card. Also, our current federal government is very right wing and it wouldn't suprise me if online gambling is re-declared illegal in the near future and new laws are passed similar to what's happening in the US.

As for regulated gambling in Canada, here's how it breaks down.

ALC (Atlantic Canada) - Offers lotto, sports and flash games online. Currently looking at Bingo.

Lotto Quebec - Doesn't have government approval to launch an online site although they have prepped for it.

OLGC (Ontario) - Once had an online gaming site fully built but didn't get government approval at the last minute so it's now on the shelf and outdated. Unlikely to have an online gaming site in the near future.

WCLC (Western Canada) - No plans for online gaming.

Alberta (part of WCLC but with a separate gaming board) - Are in planning to offer online gambling. Likley will not offer poker as they will face the same issues as other regulated jurisdictions which is liquidity of players.

BCLC (British Columbia) - Offers lotto, sports, 5 minute keno and flash games.


ALC and BCLC are the only two regulated jurisdictions in North America to provide true internet gaming.

So that's the Canadian gaming scene in a nutshell. After all that, I'm not sure why FirePay would pull out now. I should be able to dig this up though and will keep you posted.

Rab

Well Rab I want to thank you for all the information. I knew about the banning of advertisement as I have witnessed it already. IT IS ILLEGLE TO PLAY ONLINE GAMBLING!! Wow so all they have to do is enforce it then. I know the Indian and Quebec situation will always be a battle here in Canada, it has been since I can remember.
Well all I can say is keep your eyes and ears open fellow Canadians, and by the looks of things IT WON'T BE LONG!!!!