NNNOOOOOOO!!! (S.Africa bans online gambling)

#1 26th August 2010, 12:17 AM

Not Fair!!!! boohooohoo. cry cry and cry some more!

They have finally banned online gambling (including poker) in South Africa. Bloody land based casinos who obviously got angry at the new competition and lack of profits.

No more online poker. Hell man. This totally sucks nuts.

#2 26th August 2010, 12:19 AM

boycot SA

#3 26th August 2010, 12:23 AM

Was it similar to the U.S. ban that blocked money transfers to and from the sites? Or is there some sort of ban that makes it illegal for citizens to play completely?

I guess either way, it sucks.

Our condolences and prayers go out to you Michael.

BTW, how's the loophole hunt going?

#4 26th August 2010, 12:47 AM

Some locally based sites are trying to find loopholes-but which citizen wants to be fined up to R10,000,000 or ten years jail to see if government is serious. Not me.

Im hoping for something magical to happen. And I have quite a few dollars on Tilt. Some people have already written that the banks are refusing to accept the cash from any site including Full Tilt for fear of government charging them 10Mill.

Effing sucks.

#5 26th August 2010, 2:08 AM

Have you considered emigrating?

#6 26th August 2010, 2:12 AM

TIA my friend

#7 26th August 2010, 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8Michael3

Some locally based sites are trying to find loopholes-but which citizen wants to be fined up to R10,000,000 or ten years jail to see if government is serious. Not me.

Im hoping for something magical to happen. And I have quite a few dollars on Tilt. Some people have already written that the banks are refusing to accept the cash from any site including Full Tilt for fear of government charging them 10Mill.

Effing sucks.

Wow! That is harsh!

Do you deal with any international banks? Are you even able (legally) to log into Full Tilt? Howabout e-wallet accounts like Net-Teller, or Moneybookers?

#8 26th August 2010, 3:25 AM

If you use an e-wallet so you didn't have any direct transactions between a poker site and a bank, how the hell would the government know what you were doing on the internet?

#9 26th August 2010, 5:59 AM

That does stink. I guess there's not much you can do at this point. You might email FT support and ask what your withdrawal options are. Since it is your money they may have some ideas on how to get it out. As mentioned, an e-wallet service like Neteller that supports SA may be your best bet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheKAAHK

Was it similar to the U.S. ban that blocked money transfers to and from the sites?

Only to sites, not from, and the UIGEA only applies to the banks and payment processors themselves, not the players.

#10 26th August 2010, 6:35 AM

that stinks man i hope you find a way to play if you can. i hate when governments tell their people what they cant and can do with their money.

#11 26th August 2010, 7:49 AM

so much for so -called democracy

#12 26th August 2010, 12:58 PM

It applies to:
Sites offering online poker
Players
Banks
ISP's

They intend prosecuting all 4 if found...

Hopefully Piggs and Silversands will change to e-wallets.

#13 26th August 2010, 1:05 PM

I wrote to Full Tilt and asked for some help concerning my cash. No response yet, but I will probably have to create an e-wallet service to get my cash out. And if that doesnt work-I will ask a family member from UK to create an account and I will transfer them my cash or something.

My prayer:
Dear Lord please wake me up from this horrible nightmare because I really really need to play some poker!

BTW thanks for your interest and recommendations folks. I appreciate it.

#14 26th August 2010, 1:07 PM

yeah i heard too,i still play lol and haven't tryed putting money on or taking it of,why the hell would they do this !! it seemed sooo sudden and just out of nowhere...

#15 26th August 2010, 1:21 PM

I'm doing the same, continue playing with no transactions until the appeal is finalised.

#16 26th August 2010, 2:19 PM

Very bad news ! Damn, i hope that never happens here in Germany. Maybe you find another way to play online poker, or another game, or another country - wish you all the best. Hope the forum can help you, man ...

#17 26th August 2010, 2:46 PM

I'm sorry for you and for every poker player in your country...damn...

#18 26th August 2010, 2:54 PM

Let's not forget that we have states in the US that are nearly as bad. Washington state, for example. Last I heard, it was a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $50,000 (or is it $500,000?) fine to play any online gambling game.

Of course it's a lot easier to just move to another state than another country, if poker is that important to you (I believe it would be to me).

#19 26th August 2010, 3:36 PM

...sponsored politicians...!!!

The worst enemy of a democracy are the lobbyist and their dogs...!

#20 26th August 2010, 6:23 PM

bad new OP. Looks like ur gonna have to hit them casinos and rape 'em at poker.

#21 26th August 2010, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8Michael3

Some locally based sites are trying to find loopholes-but which citizen wants to be fined up to R10,000,000 or ten years jail to see if government is serious. Not me.

Im hoping for something magical to happen. And I have quite a few dollars on Tilt. Some people have already written that the banks are refusing to accept the cash from any site including Full Tilt for fear of government charging them 10Mill.

Effing sucks.

HUGE BUMMER! Wow.. that REALLY f'n SUCKS!

Have you considered staking a few horses.... having them ship cashouts via cheque? I know of a guy over in Canada....... just sayin'...

#22 27th August 2010, 12:55 AM

i think ALL internet gambling illegal,not just poker i also bet on horses or my dad did and i recently started,he said it illegal too now :'(
how the 'eff are people supposed to feed they're gambling addictions without going to casinos now!!!!!!!!!???????
i play chess hahahahahahaha

#23 27th August 2010, 2:50 AM

poker at my place next friday

#24 27th August 2010, 9:28 AM

That sucks. Now if only they would invade Nigeria and make it illegal to scam people over the internet...

#25 27th August 2010, 11:59 AM

Thats harsh another country down...... Whats it coming too when you cannot spend your own money on a game that you enjoy wonder which country is next truelly a crap year for poker players lets wait and see what the US reforms bring.

#26 27th August 2010, 12:29 PM

I truly feel bad for you, man!!!! SUX!!!!!!! big time. There is nothing to say really, wow, I hope you get some kind of alternative. I wish I could say something other than sorry, I can only hope that casinos are near you.

How can this happen? ......man, if you find a petition or anything similar, post it here, we will all try to muster support..................

#27 27th August 2010, 2:35 PM

is it possible to start a petition?
if so how or must u be in the government or something??

#28 27th August 2010, 5:16 PM

I googled it but couldn´t find something about online poker and South Afrika. Are u sure about ist ? If it is so, then i hope you will find solutions and opportunities to play our wonderful game in the future, good luck.
(Anyone with a link ?)

#29 27th August 2010, 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8Michael3

Some locally based sites are trying to find loopholes-but which citizen wants to be fined up to R10,000,000 or ten years jail to see if government is serious. Not me.

Im hoping for something magical to happen. And I have quite a few dollars on Tilt. Some people have already written that the banks are refusing to accept the cash from any site including Full Tilt for fear of government charging them 10Mill.

Effing sucks.

I can just see you in prison now......

"So.. what are you in for?".... "I killed a man with my bare hands, you?" ... "I raped a woman and beat her dog to death.. hey, new guy, how bout you? What are you in for?" ... Michael says, "I... um... I got caught playing online poker."

Everyone in the prison, "GASP!!!!!!!!!!"

#30 27th August 2010, 6:59 PM

Go play in Lesotho

#31 27th August 2010, 7:07 PM

That sucks. Politicians suffer from rectal-cranial inversions all over the world.

I have a friend from South Africa who plays Limit Holdem for a living, so he's moving to Mauritius now. Leaving home would suck (particularly with a newborn), but from the pictures it looks beautiful there.

#32 27th August 2010, 8:30 PM

Same as everywhere. Those who have the gambling consession won't allow others in. Plus they give money to the law makers. Sad buy true.

#33 28th August 2010, 9:16 PM

Latest update from Piggs:

As you are aware we lost our application in the Pretoria High Court regarding the legality of South Africans playing on our Swaziland licensed internet casino which has serious implications for South African players. We are in the process of applying for leave to appeal the judgement and felt that we could continue operating in the interim. We have since been advised that we should stop operating for South African players until the matter has been resolved.
In your interests we have taken a decision to stop operating from midnight Saturday August 28 until application for leave to appeal has been heard and decided upon. All remaining player balances, will be held safely at Piggs Peak Casino Swaziland. You can cash in any balance by e-mailing ***** and your request will be processed.

Yours Sincerely,

#34 28th August 2010, 9:48 PM

Time for a revolution, imo. Too many politicians in the world, let`s guillotine a few. It won`t do them much harm, because they don`t use their heads anyway.

#35 8th September 2010, 2:14 PM

Casinos pay them politicians to keep online poker in check. Money is power and there too many damn politicians in the world. Bunch of money hungry wolfs. Its them casinos that are keeping online poker down.

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