My revalation: WoW, what was I thinking.

wow, i can't wait for your downswing. these are some of the dumbest statements i've ever read or heard

everyone goes on heaters and this could be one

with that being said you could be playing great poker but eventually a downswing will hit

it happens to every player

so with that being said congrats on the success and i hope it continues

I doubt that.



Short answer? Yes. The downswing will come I don't care if you are the best poker player in the world. That is an awesome upswing, but it's only lasted two weeks. If you don't plan for it it will eat you alive.

The other problem with the way you are playing is this and it's happened time and time and time and time again is that as soon as it happens..you loose one buy in here, one there,then another... then you get AA cracked by the donkey with 2/6 (after all...th fact that donkeys do win these hands every now and then is the one and only thing keeping them around) and next thing you know you've gone on a massive tilt streak and thrown away another 5 buy ins or so.

Planning for it is a huge part of preventing and/or lessening the impact when it hits. Expecting it never to hit you is incredibly naive and dangerous.

Is this all on Stars? What is your username there? I think some people would be interested in watching you play.

Just lost 2 buy-in's since I wrote this! haha
Down to 935


Yea its on pokerstars - xCashin_inx

Thing theas post have anything to do with each other?

Nice job...... guess he couldn't tell you were full of shit huh? How did you represent this hand oh learned one?

PokerStars Game #16926523147: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/22 - 22:04:50 (ET)
Table 'Maria' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: jwikk187 ($58.35 in chips)
Seat 2: xCaShiN_iNx ($36.50 in chips)
Seat 3: racerrob ($52.25 in chips)
Seat 4: JUcantStopme ($45.80 in chips)
Seat 5: intersoler ($50.70 in chips)
Seat 6: spolitor ($49.75 in chips)
intersoler: posts small blind $0.25
spolitor: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jwikk187: calls $0.50
xCaShiN_iNx: raises $2 to $2.50
racerrob: folds
JUcantStopme: folds
intersoler: calls $2.25
spolitor: folds
jwikk187: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [As Ah 4s]
intersoler: checks
jwikk187: bets $2.50
xCaShiN_iNx: raises $3.50 to $6
intersoler: folds
jwikk187: calls $3.50
*** TURN *** [As Ah 4s] J♦
jwikk187: checks
xCaShiN_iNx: bets $6
jwikk187: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [As Ah 4s Jd] A♣
jwikk187: checks
xCaShiN_iNx: bets $9
jwikk187: raises $34.85 to $43.85 and is all-in
xCaShiN_iNx: folds
jwikk187 collected $47.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50 | Rake $2.40
Board [As Ah 4s Jd Ac]
Seat 1: jwikk187 collected ($47.60)
Seat 2: xCaShiN_iNx folded on the River
Seat 3: racerrob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JUcantStopme (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: intersoler (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: spolitor (big blind) folded before Flop

Just 2 hands I saw watching. These were within 5-10 minutes of each other. What happens when you have a run of these? Obviously now you can probably deal with it, but what if at the start you got a few of these hands? You're not immune to running bad.

Damn it .......What happened? You bust? I was in line waiting to take your money but the seat that opened for me was......... YOURS!




oh this is how it happened........

PokerStars Game #16926665123: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/22 - 22:11:49 (ET)
Table 'Maria' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: xCaShiN_iNx ($23.60 in chips)
Seat 3: racerrob ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 4: JUcantStopme ($55.65 in chips)
Seat 5: intersoler ($53.10 in chips)
Seat 6: spolitor ($49.25 in chips)
Grease33 will be allowed to play after the button
xCaShiN_iNx: posts small blind $0.25
racerrob: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JUcantStopme: raises $1 to $1.50
intersoler: folds
spolitor: folds
xCaShiN_iNx: calls $1.25
racerrob: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c 7h 2s]
xCaShiN_iNx: checks
JUcantStopme: bets $3
xCaShiN_iNx: calls $3
*** TURN *** [8c 7h 2s] 6♠
xCaShiN_iNx: checks
JUcantStopme: bets $7.50
xCaShiN_iNx: calls $7.50
*** RIVER *** [8c 7h 2s 6s] [Tc]
xCaShiN_iNx: bets $11.60 and is all-in
JUcantStopme: calls $11.60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xCaShiN_iNx: shows [Qs Ks] (high card King)
JUcantStopme: shows [Jh Js] (a pair of Jacks)
JUcantStopme collected $45.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47.70 | Rake $2
Board [8c 7h 2s 6s Tc]
Seat 2: xCaShiN_iNx (small blind) showed [Qs Ks] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: racerrob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: JUcantStopme showed [Jh Js] and won ($45.70) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: intersoler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: spolitor (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Im totally down 3 buy-ins in less than an hour! Everyone that says im stupid can make fun of me now! I deserve it, im playing way too fast and stupid.

I think ill call it a night! =)
Ill get em tommorow.

No need for us to make fun of you....... your hands speak for themselves.........

No decent player would call that last all-in but I have to remember im not playing agaisnt decent players. Im back, I just needed to slow down a little bit =)

apparently neither are they

Im only 18 and the money means way too much to me, if I lose another buy in im gonna cash out for about $600 and move down in limits. Ill still have 300 bucks to work with.

300 bucks, what cash game am I looking at following proper bankroll management? 25NL? Thats probablly too high for you guys huh?

"for you guys"?

The people are posting here to help YOU to stop from going broke. Throw your ego out the window for 5 minutes and listen to what they're saying. You're NOT the player you think you are. You CAN be a good player, but the first step to having a stable bankroll with which to do so is to start practicing proper bankroll management. 20 buyins is the widely accepted standard, but the more buyins you have in your BR the better. Everybody goes through this phase of thinking they're the shit, and almost everybody learns they're not.

I'm not going to spend another minute giving advice because I've done this too many times to try to help people who just ignore the words of warning. Take it from someone who's been through the whole 'thinking they're better than they really are' stage and LISTEN to the advice people give you.

You're probably just on a heater, well no you definitely are just on a heater. You obviously aren't a terrible player but even a great player playing one table at a time at 50NL would struggle to make that much. But I can see it now, you lose a couple big hands get pissed off then move up in limits to try and win back your losses then you are broke. It happens all the time to people that think they are just amazing and can't lose.

I realize im cocky and I got really lucky to build a 1K+ roll like I did but now that I do have some money I want to cash out and leave myself with $300 bucks. What level of cash game should I play at?

25NL would leave me with 16 buy-ins, would that be terrible to play?

Definitly not, like I said im only 18 and the money means way to much to me. Im gonna cash out for about $600 tommorow and move down in limits.

......
"terrible to play" would be relative, I guess. The fewer buyins you have in your BR, the bigger swings you'll experience relative to your bankroll.

I'm already breaking my promise about not spending another minute in this thread

Do a search, there are a million threads on bankroll management.

Hmm, 25NL would not be 16 buy-ins for your $300. That would be $400. You should stick to 10NL (30 buy-ins). Unless you want to continue playing your bankroll with a higher risk of ruin.

If the money means too much that's more reason to be more conservative with BRM.

Just cashed out for $500 and im back down to playing low limit sng's and low limit cash games!

My overall online poker experience = $205 in deposits - $602 in withdrawls - $300 in my current account

nice .

From what I saw you were a pretty decent player. Very aggressive, but you were at 6max as well. Keep working to get better and hopefully your success will continue. Sure you'll hit downswings, but upswings happen too, variance goes both ways .

QFT

OP is seriously delusional imo, fwiw, afaik, wtf, ldo

i like to have 1k for 25nl, but i play 16-24 tables.

douche+luck=OP and why poker is profitable.

wtf, why one table?

Most sensible post in this thread. Money managment is just as important as being a good player. Take your time, if your as good as you say you are, youll be up playing nl$50 properly rolled in no time at all.

I have to say Cashin I admire you for sticking around even though you have been raked over the coals in this thread. I imagine you are very young.

It would be cool if in a few years you became a respected player in here and we could all look back and laugh with you at your first few threads.

Damn. Didn't work. *TEST*

Ok, after reading through:

Cash: Good to see you've learned your lesson a bit (and Daks is right, they were pretty blunt with you, haha). You seem to be on the right track now. Good luck!

These guys did a test to see if variance really was a myth. Here is what they have to say:

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It is great to hear of your early success my friend. I warn you to not get too full of yourself or else you WILL crash. There was a time when I played online poker for my job. It was great for a year and a half. My wife makes a good living so all I had to do was pull $2,000 a month out and we were living well. Man I thought I was the chit and then one day I it all went to the crapper. Couldn't win a tourney or do well in cash games. Pyed the same way as always but the luck went and so did the bankroll. Now I play just for fun and do OK but I will never forget my run. Good luck to you.

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