was my bet sufficient or should i have gone all in?

Played the other night in casino, caught AKo in BB button raised 600 blinds were 50-100 I called and flop came K97 or something like that I raised 1000 and got called next card came J I went all in he called and pulled up trip jacks, I think his call to my 1000 raise was wrong but should I have put him all in I was trying to milk the pot in all honesty oh by the way the stacks were similar around 3000 each to begin with. Thanks all once again

i dont see anything wrong with his call of 1k on the flop


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No mistakes in play. Just unlucky for you. Strange call from villian, I agree.

he was the initial raiser, BB just flat called OOP, then bets 1k into a like 1300 pot. you really think hes folding JJ there? hes not.

I know he's raised initially, but my raise of 1000 ie ten times BB should have told him I'd hit a K on flop making a pair, he's calling on a pair of jacks he has to make trips now the odds are heavily against but he still calls and just gets lucky on the turn. Maybe i should have pushed all in after flop rather than the raise for a 1000.. I don't know

I think I am shipping pre flop here. His range is massive from the button. His raise looks like he doesn't fancy a fight.

As played, if you think he is aggresive. Then i would go for a check raise on the flop.

Thanks saddler what do you mean by shipping pre flop? and if I read you correctly check the flop hope for his raise then all in after his raise?

Chances are he would have called anyway, even if you went all in.

He only had 1 over card on the flop to think about so he may have fallen in love with his hand.

You didn't do too much wrong and he just got lucky.

Thanks Bluffy I respect your experience do you concur with a check on the flop by me then a reraise if he raises after my check?

IMO shove the flop.

As is, if he calls the flop then he is forced to call the turn with pretty much anything.. including some possible draws that he might pick up on the turn.

I think its just better to get the money in now.

But TBH there isnat all that much difference.. As the bet was, once he calls the flop.. you are both committed on the turn. JUst unlucky that he caught a J.

I mean 3 bet him pre flop. His range is so wide here you would have a lot of fold equity, and if he does call, which he would have, you still have a lot of equity.

I don't think there is really an incorrect way to play that flop in that situation. If you think he will bet air then check raise is a good play. But shoving the flop, or betting it how you did is fine too. That's poker, it sucks sometimes.

I wouldve shoved pre just because youre a coin flip unless youre against Aces or Kings. His call with the Jacks wasnt bad at all, he prob didnt put you on a King and felt you couldve called with A/Q or something like that or a small pair.

You got unlucky, but the 1k bet was an easy call for the Vill, bet a bit more and you might be able to get him off of the hand.

GL on the felt.

I know I might sound dumb but by saying 3 bet him does that mean 3 times his raise of 600? And what do you mean by fold equity and his range being wide and that I would have a lot of equity? Thanks for all your experienced help. I have to leave work now so I'll reply in a.m. ok

Im still telling you right now, that youre 1k bet on the flop doesnt mean you hit a king. if I have JJ and its only a 1 overcard flop, im basically calling your 1k cbet every time unless youre a supernit.

He would have called you pf if you shipped. You could have shoved on the flop - that's the only place I see him folding, but you want value out of this hand so I don't see why you'd want to push him out. Just got unlucky.

I doubt hes calling pre if you shipped on the flop..

JJ isnt too great of a hand to be calling an all in for stacks


To me its just looking like okay, you hit the king, led flop, he hit jack on the turn..standard..

I don't think you made any mistakes at all in your play.
He only has 2 outs when you hit the flop so why push all in, which will make it more likely for him to fold the hand.
The flop isn't a bad flop for his hand. You might easily have AQ or A10 for example and just be making a continuation bet hoping u missed as well as him, which a lot of players will do.
I think his calling on the flop is dubious however. He should make the decision there to either come over the top immediately on the flop if he thinks theres a good chance you've missed or fold.
By flat calling he gives free cards to AQ type hands.

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Sorry. I will explain better. I just get used to everyone knowing these terms. Your not dumb, you are posting your hand on here trying to see if you played it right, so there is nothing wrong with that.

For what it's worth, I think you played it fine. Different styles make different plays. I just like to be the aggressor, put the other guy in a tough spot.

Ok. His range in this situation , is what he will raise the button in an unopened pot. You can narrow his range down to a certain extent a few ways. Stack size. If he is short stacked then he will probably shove with any two cards that are high, suited or remotely connected. This wasn't the case this time, so does he steal from the button alot ? If he does then his range would be something like, any pocket pair, AK-A7. KQ, KJ, K10, and some other random suited or connected cards.

So you AK stands to be a whole lot better than his range, so I prefer playing back at him and 3 betting, which is when you re raise the initial raiser. As far as I am aware the size of the bet doesn't change the term 3 bet.

Fold equity. Say you shove all in over the top of his raise (Just for example) There is a good chance he will fold, which gives you fold equity, as wel as the fact you have a pretty decent hand anyway.

I await some of the better players pulling me to bits about my explinations

Don't be scared to ask questions. There are some real good players on here, I don't include myself in that. They are more than willing to help.

id have done the same thing.