losing days???

#1 14th December 2009, 9:26 PM

It seems to me if I could not play on the days nothing goes right I would save\make more money Today is one of them days raise 3x with AA get raised all in by A-K flop K_K_7 goodbye $30 I have A-Q call a 3x flop comes Q-8_4 villian bets 9 I raise all in to 20 total he has KK goodbye 25 a couple of S&Gs best hand after flop never held up there are always days like this playing poker how do you avoid them or at least limit your loses?

#2 14th December 2009, 9:31 PM

Yes, everyone has these days. I like to call it "second best hand syndrome". Losing this way is worse than being card dead imo. When card dead you don't seem to lose as much as when you are getting great hands to start with and ending up second best.

Try taking a break.
Try lowering the limits you play at until this phase has passed.
Post some of these hands in the HA section to be evaluated to see if there was anything you could have done differently.

#3 14th December 2009, 9:33 PM

You want to know how to avoid variance? Stop playing poker.

You want to avoid stacking TPTK? Think about what your opponent might call your shove with before you do it.

You want to help minimize the bad days? Play when you're feeling good and are in the correct mindset.

#4 15th December 2009, 2:51 PM

I know how you feel. today i was playing had AA raised 4x the blind gut cals with 5 2 offsuit and hit a str8. it sucked

#5 15th December 2009, 3:32 PM

These days pass storm?Damn i'm still waiting second best to crazy plays a little over a year an counting for me.

#6 15th December 2009, 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan

It seems to me if I could not play on the days nothing goes right I would save\make more money Today is one of them days raise 3x with AA get raised all in by A-K flop K_K_7 goodbye $30 I have A-Q call a 3x flop comes Q-8_4 villian bets 9 I raise all in to 20 total he has KK goodbye 25 a couple of S&Gs best hand after flop never held up there are always days like this playing poker how do you avoid them or at least limit your loses?

thats a nice story i had the same experience when someone with AK offsuit raised 3x big blind and then i raise 9x big blind with AA and the flop had two kings except this time i lost 1.3k preflop

#7 15th December 2009, 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan

It seems to me if I could not play on the days nothing goes right I would save\make more money Today is one of them days raise 3x with AA get raised all in by A-K flop K_K_7 goodbye $30 I have A-Q call a 3x flop comes Q-8_4 villian bets 9 I raise all in to 20 total he has KK goodbye 25 a couple of S&Gs best hand after flop never held up there are always days like this playing poker how do you avoid them or at least limit your loses?

Have a break or try to play in an other poker room.

For example I played a lot in PS 2.5K depositor satelite frees and I did well there, I could won five 25K tickets. But on thursday something changed there and I couldnt win with anything tho I played with the same gamestyle.. I lost preflopallins, I got the weaker monster etc...so Sunday I couldnt get ITM in any of the 25Ks.
Next day I tried out an other room and I won a freeroll.

#8 15th December 2009, 5:45 PM

If there wasnt luck involved..........

#9 15th December 2009, 6:09 PM

I agree there's variance in poker, but I think that often, when players lose a lot, they keep playing in order to lose less... and finally lose more

And when players play well, and win a lot, they stop playing because fearing a bad beat that could hurt these winnings... and finally win less

I guess you maybe could try stop playing when facing a really bad day.

#10 15th December 2009, 11:16 PM

part of my ? has to do with limiting loses on bad days it seems there are days that no matter what I do the cards just wont fall right when this happens to you do you sense it soon enough to stop playing and save money. I know a guy who uses 3 buy ins for his stop in cash games S&gs are a little different what do you do there Thanks

#11 15th December 2009, 11:37 PM

I bubbled in a big MTT yesterday with AA vs AK where he hit 4 to the flush. Nothing you can do, just keep your head up and don't let it bother you. There's always tomorrow!

#12 15th December 2009, 11:54 PM

I believe this is the variance in poker. If you play poker alot for a very long time...after a while you will not get so lucky. "Variance". This is why alot of people who play MTTs don't make it to the final table because they can't handle the variances a long MTT has.

#13 16th December 2009, 7:31 AM

I always have luck. It's usually all good or all bad but I always have luck. Take a walk and relax until the next day and don't let it get to you.

#14 16th December 2009, 7:27 PM

Bad luck sucks. Try taking a break and getting in the proper mindset, which will help a lot.

#15 16th December 2009, 7:42 PM

Yeah, there are days that I seem to get not just 1 or 2 bad beats (Those I'm used to and can handle) But the days when it seems like you lose 8 - 10 70/30's in a row - those send me through the roof.

#16 16th December 2009, 9:56 PM

You have to take the good with the bad. You will have days when you play very well and cant get anything going, and you will have days when you win.

#17 16th December 2009, 11:59 PM

Take a break buddy.
Always nice to go grab a bite, rest, & then your right back on your game.

#18 17th December 2009, 12:24 AM

THE WHOLE MONTH OF DECEMBER HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR ME!!!! I'm playin micro 1-2 cent tables now, I'm scared to play anything higher, and I'm losing there too!!!pocket A's the guy hits a straight with 8-6 lol I give up!!!! pocket K's person hits 4 straight spades for a flush, I'm not playing anymore for the rest of the month, all I've been doing is cussing, and my wife tellin me to shout up!!!!

#19 17th December 2009, 12:25 AM

it seems 2 happen very often to me to one day i win everything i play just unbeaterbal but the the next day get beat horrible way cant get 2 cards to hold up and getting riverd and rivered and even more rivered but i guess thats all in an unlucky day of poker the poker god can be brutal sometimes grrr lol but its all fun in the end and be forgotten quickly after u start winning again

#20 17th December 2009, 12:45 AM

Back in the 70s I lost over $300.00 playing the best cards I ever had. My full houses were even second best. The thing is I have won alot of money playing cards worst than these on many days. This time I couldn't do anything right.

#21 17th December 2009, 12:52 AM

I raised all in with AK suited got called with 72 2 hit the flop

#22 17th December 2009, 3:47 AM

Some days you get the bear and some days the bear gets you. We have all been there and just have to work through it. On those kinds of days, and you know when your having them, try not to make obvious mistakes, don't push it and whatever happens don't chase. What worked for you last session or last night may not work for you this session. However, that said, all here I am sure would agree that good fundamentals are key to being successfull. Good luck in your future endevors and beat yourself too much. It happens to all of us.

#23 17th December 2009, 4:22 AM

honestly you need to be playing when your in the right mindset.
if your mind is on other things (whether it be homework, browsing the internet, twitter, facebook, CC lol or whatever etc) it only hurts your playing.

if it feels like nothing is going right on a particular day than dont be afraid to call it quits cuz u always have tomorrow. Also listening to music seems to help me immensely when on a bad run.

#24 17th December 2009, 5:00 AM

oh man, Thank god I read this thread Ive been getting so frustrated lately by bad beats. Ive been losing ppKK to Q8os and ppAA to K-10 so much lately Ive been wanting to hang it up (lol figure of speech). Granted I only play freerolls it still sucks to lose to bad hands on a constant basis it even been making me not want to call peoples all in preflop with my aces thats just crazy talk I think. I guess it makes me feel better that Im not the only one that this happens to.

#25 17th December 2009, 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAX101

THE WHOLE MONTH OF DECEMBER HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR ME!!!! I'm playin micro 1-2 cent tables now, I'm scared to play anything higher, and I'm losing there too!!!pocket A's the guy hits a straight with 8-6 lol I give up!!!! pocket K's person hits 4 straight spades for a flush, I'm not playing anymore for the rest of the month, all I've been doing is cussing, and my wife tellin me to shout up!!!!

If it's making you this upset, then it's definitely time for a break. I've come a LONG way in the past couple of months as far as tilt control goes, and my graph has most certainly improved since.

#26 18th December 2009, 1:27 AM

No Ethon, I sat back and thought about what I was doing that I wasn't doing before, I realized that I was playing alot more hands then I would normally play, usually I would not play anything lower then A -10,before I would wait for a good hand and trap,my br started going up and I was having fun cuz I was winning, that lead me to play more hands and lose, kinda lost track, gotta get back to the basic's,patience,play better odd's, did a little fishing realized I was the fish lol

#27 18th December 2009, 8:06 PM

Last year in one night i lose 890 dollars. I was on tilt in a cash table 2/4 and i dont knew stop. I lost all my BR in one night.

#28 18th December 2009, 8:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan

It seems to me if I could not play on the days nothing goes right I would save\make more money Today is one of them days raise 3x with AA get raised all in by A-K flop K_K_7 goodbye $30 I have A-Q call a 3x flop comes Q-8_4 villian bets 9 I raise all in to 20 total he has KK goodbye 25 a couple of S&Gs best hand after flop never held up there are always days like this playing poker how do you avoid them or at least limit your loses?

I don't mind bad days - but bad weeks are getting me down, It just seems to go on and on with cards that have no legs - don't go anywhere - always rivered out. I'm taking a Christmas break starting today and ending January 1st. -- Everybody have a Happy Holiday and good luck at the poker tables.

#29 18th December 2009, 8:24 PM

When I can clearly see that I am on one of those losing days... I bail out and don't get back on till the next day...

My best method I have used is to start at lower limits... even micro stakes and see how you fair out in those situations in the beginning of the day... If all goes well then move your way up the ladder and hopefully all is well...

That is just a lil part of my strategy "testing the waters" on Full Tilt day by day.

My Two Cents,
Moe.

#30 18th December 2009, 9:55 PM

seems when I have one of "those days" it's on different sites also. It's hard to keep a good outlook, but I try to keep saying, it'll even out sometime.
Take care

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