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  Poker - Look at this runner runner garbage
 
  #1  
16-09-2008, 6:08 AM
vinnys025
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Posts: 6
Look at this runner runner garbage

So i'm a descent player and decided to enter a tourney last night and made it to the final 10 in a 7K guaranteed in FT and look at what happened. Seems to happen WwAAyyyyyyyy too much online as compared to live, and i do play alot of live tourneys.

Full Tilt Poker Game #8082416714: $7,000 Guarantee (60723104), Table 29 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:02:49 ET - 2008/09/15
Seat 2: zboolani (112,879)
Seat 4: Dayton77 (64,957)
Seat 5: princessmeow (72,263)
Seat 6: reds1010 (108,596)
Seat 9: vinnys030 (25,641)
zboolani antes 600
Dayton77 antes 600
princessmeow antes 600
reds1010 antes 600
vinnys030 antes 600
vinnys030 posts the small blind of 2,500
zboolani posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to vinnys030 [Jd Js]
princessmeow: how old r u booboo?
Dayton77 folds
zboolani: 21
princessmeow raises to 12,000
reds1010 folds
princessmeow: really?
vinnys030 raises to 25,041, and is all in
zboolani folds
princessmeow calls 13,041
zboolani: yeah
vinnys030 shows [Jd Js]
princessmeow shows [8c 9h]
Nicolejane (Observer): single?
SeBaFurMan (Observer): me 20... near 21..
*** FLOP *** [3h Jh Qc]
*** TURN *** [3h Jh Qc] 7♣
*** RIVER *** [3h Jh Qc 7c] [Th]
princessmeow: 10
vinnys030 shows three of a kind, Jacks
princessmeow shows a straight, Queen high
princessmeow wins the pot (58,082) with a straight, Queen high
princessmeow: oops
SeBaFurMan (Observer): woooooooow
vinnys030 stands up
zboolani stands up
Dayton77 stands up
princessmeow stands up
reds1010 stands up
tuneboy2301 (Observer): wow sick
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 58,082 | Rake 0
Board: [3h Jh Qc 7c Th]
Seat 2: zboolani (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Dayton77 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: princessmeow showed [8c 9h] and won (58,082) with a straight, Queen high
Seat 6: reds1010 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: vinnys030 (small blind) showed [Jd Js] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
 

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  #2  
16-09-2008, 6:10 AM
vanquish
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Posts: 5,381
This belongs in the bad beat section, first of all. Second of all, think about the dynamic of tournament play. Most of the time, you shouldn't even expect to cash! Thus, continue to put yourself in the best position to win big pots, and you will have success in no time at all!
  #3  
16-09-2008, 6:32 AM
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
 
Location: Australia
Plays at: Full Tilt
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Third, this wasn't actually runner-runner as the seven on the turn didn't prove anything. You just got rivered is all.

Fourth, all the money went in before the flop. You've got an ultra-short stack in the small blind, and the villain only has to put in 13K to call a pot that's about 45K. Even if your range is restricted solely to TT+ (and it really can't be) they're getting about the right price to call you here.

Bad outcome, but try not to be results oriented - you made the right move and got unlucky.
  #4  
17-09-2008, 4:00 AM
vinnys025
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Posts: 6
So I'm in another tourney today and make it to the final 3. I get dealt pocket sixes, I raise the BB 3x, this guy calls with K9 offsuit, flop comes out KK9, he min raises, I call. Then a six comes out......you know what happens next. I go all in with my lower full boat, he wins with a higher full boat, THREE HANDED!!!!

All I'm saying is that this doesn't happen NEARLY as much in real life, the systems on full tilt and pokerstars are set up to force unrealistic action, everyone knows it. I can tell you countless times I flop top two pair, then someone else gets a flush and another gets a straight....all in the same hand, its way unrealistic.
  #5  
17-09-2008, 4:04 AM
glworden
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Location: benzie County, Michigan
Plays at: Carbon-Bodog
Likes: hold'em/omah
Posts: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnys025
So I'm in another tourney today and make it to the final 3. I get dealt pocket sixes, I raise the BB 3x, this guy calls with K9 offsuit, flop comes out KK9, he min raises, I call. Then a six comes out......you know what happens next. I go all in with my lower full boat, he wins with a higher full boat, THREE HANDED!!!!

All I'm saying is that this doesn't happen NEARLY as much in real life, the systems on full tilt and pokerstars are set up to force unrealistic action, everyone knows it. I can tell you countless times I flop top two pair, then someone else gets a flush and another gets a straight....all in the same hand, its way unrealistic.
. . . and that's why they keep coming back.
  #6  
17-09-2008, 4:06 AM
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
 
Location: Australia
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Posts: 2,481
Sigh

Once again, this belongs in the bad beats section. And the whole "rigged" angle is sooooo old and boring.

You're suffering from selective recall. I deal live games, stuff like this happens live too. I've dealt straight flushes over straight flushes, straight flushes over quads and all sorts of other horrible beats.
  #7  
17-09-2008, 4:12 AM
janovsky
Advanced Member
 
Location: netherlands
Plays at: full tilt
Likes: NL Holdem
Posts: 136
I can`t compare this to live games as I don`t play them, but bad beats happen all the time at at every table, not just to ourselves.
I see it happen in tourneys as well as in ring games or sit and go`s.
If it`s not happening in live games that much, I think it would be a good idea to try it and find it out myself. Maybe I get more lucky outthere and built a nice BR.
  #8  
17-09-2008, 4:20 AM
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
 
Location: Australia
Plays at: Full Tilt
Likes: wild deuces
Posts: 2,481
The reason it seems like this happens less often live is you see less hands per hour live.

You'll see more weird stuff happen watching an online table for a day than you will watching a live table for a day. But watch either for the same number of hands, and roughly the same amount of weird stuff should happen.
 




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