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  Poker - LOL Hellmuth at WPT $25K Buy-in WPT Championship
 
  #1  
26-04-2007, 7:36 AM
skoldpadda
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LOL Hellmuth at WPT $25K Buy-in WPT Championship

Wed Apr 25 16:37:00 PDT 2007

On a board of A94 Sorel Mizzi bets $80,000 and Phil Hellmuth calls. The turn is the A and Mizzi bets $180,000. Hellmuth goes into the tank then says, "I need a jack!" then calls. The river is the J, Mizzi thinks then finally goes all in for his last $323,000. Hellmuth quickly calls but mucks as soon as he sees Mizzi's 99. Mizzi now has $1.5 million and Hellmuth has around 1 million.


Can you imagine the look on Hellmuth's face when he got the river card he wanted and still lost? What did he have there? KJ?
 

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26-04-2007, 7:47 AM
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He probably had AJ I would guess and thought he was up against a stronger ace. By the way....while typing this I just took down a big pot when MY AJ hit 2 pair on the flop .
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26-04-2007, 8:03 AM
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AJ wouldve won
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26-04-2007, 8:08 AM
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KJ? No idea, KJ doesn't make sense. Or else he would have called for a K. Probably was just trying to throw off his opponent and say a random card, and when it hits, he was going to push, I don't know. That's just a weird card to call for unless he had JJ, which obv he didnt.
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26-04-2007, 8:12 AM
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Or he was just screwing with his head. The hand wasn't over when he said it.
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26-04-2007, 10:29 AM
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The more I think about it, I think Hellmuth actually had QQ or KK.
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26-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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I find it hard to believe Hellmuth would ever state what he needed before the river, nevertheless actually calling after he says this. I couldn't think what he'd have especially since he stated this during play.
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26-04-2007, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by combuboom
Or he was just screwing with his head. The hand wasn't over when he said it.


this
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26-04-2007, 11:18 AM
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From Phil Hellmuth.com's blog of April 25th: -He had A6-



In the $25,000 buy-in Tour Championship event that I'm playing in this week, I feel like near perfect play will carry you for three days, regardless of the hands you pick up. Of course, picking up A-A and getting most of your money in pre-flop against someone who then hits a set; that you cannot help getting eliminated to. After playing perfect poker for three days, I woke up on day four feeling miserably tired. So what, I woke up super tired day one as well. I should have been able to push through it rather easily, but for some reason I didn't.

I had a bad feeling when I got up (probably because I was so tired), even though I was chip leader with $1,827,000 in chips. After cresting $2 million, I raised on the button with Kc-Qc, and David Levi made it $160,000 more from the small blind. I knew that Levi over plays medium pairs, but still, why get involved with this hand? Why not lay it down? I didn't, and the flop came down K-6-5, and he moved all-in for $400,000, and I called. He showed me A-K, and I had to ask myself, "Why did you get involved with K-Q? You were at a super safe $2 million in chips, winning all kinds of small pots, and now you get involved here?" So take away $600,000 from my stack!

Twenty minutes later I raised it up after only seeing only one of my hole cards; the ace of spades. One internet player called me from the small blind, the flop came down Ac-9s-4d, and the Internet guy bet $60,000. I looked at my six kicker, and called. The next card was the Ad, and now the internet player bet out $180,000. Right here, right now, I should have laid the hand down, even though I had three aces. It wasn't even a hard lay down for me to make under normal circumstances. I mean, what could he have that I could beat? He played this hand way too aggressively (he is young), and gave me an easy fold. I mean, he should have tried to win about $100,000 on the turn and another $150,000 on the river. Although his play of the hand gave me the opportunity to fold, I didn't take it.

A jack hit on the river, and now he moved all-in for $300,000 or so. Again, I should have folded, although now folding was not an easy option. I called, he showed me pocket nines, for a full house, and I was now down to less than one million in chips. Bad play on my part, pure and simple. Was I super unlucky that I had three aces this hand? Yes, but so what. This is where the great players make the big bucks, by laying down strong hands at the right time. From there, I stayed pretty aggressive, and was a bit unlucky to lose about $250,000 more.

Then it was announced that play was finished for the day, over three hours early. Probably good for me, but I'm not so sure. I had Levi pay me off in a big pot with his 8-8, and a board of Q-Q-J-5-4. I had pocket sevens. I know that the table was ready to give me way too much action, so I wanted to keep playing. I was going to get internet boy, who beat me another pot when he played the 8h-5h from first position vs. my K-Q. Internet boy believes in "Pot odds," and raising a lot of pots pre-flop. So Levi was going to pay me, and internet boy was going to pay me that much I knew, it was just a matter of time…

In any case, I can now catch a nap. Last week I found out that I have mild sleep apnea, and this explains a lot. The 12 hour sleeps that I took throughout my twenties, constantly being tired, etc…It is a good thing I discovered this mild sleep apnea now, because it is easily treatable. I haven't been to the doctor since I discovered it from my "Sleep study" results. How much could it have affected my play all of my life? Maybe it was a good thing! After all, I did have a great WSOP in 2006…And now I have "Pro Player" endurance formula to help me out!!!
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26-04-2007, 11:25 AM
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Wow, that's a really good critique of his bad play there. Humble, too... I like to see that. I'll have to bookmark his blog.
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26-04-2007, 3:29 PM
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Did hell freeze over? Hellmuth actulaly saying he did the wrong thing huh..
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26-04-2007, 5:11 PM
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Yes ....but he is very condescending callling the other chap "internet Guy" ( Who happens to be in 4th place and playing the game of his life )
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26-04-2007, 5:13 PM
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Here are the results of Internet Guy...

06-Apr-07 € 3,300 The Irish Open - No Limit Holdem Freezeout
2007 Paddy Power Irish Open, Dublin 3rd € 210,000 $ 280,284 17-Mar-07 € 200 No Limit Hold'em
Vienna Spring Poker Festival 2007, Vienna 1st € 12,110 $ 15,869 14-Mar-07 € 1,000 No Limit Hold'em
Vienna Spring Poker Festival 2007, Vienna 4th € 8,740 $ 11,453 02-Dec-06 $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em
Ongame Network Poker Classic, Barcelona 11th $ 21,243 27-Sep-06 $ 5,000 Championship Event
2006 UltimateBet Aruba Poker Classic, Palm Beach 10th
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26-04-2007, 7:33 PM
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Anyone who follows online poker knows that Imper1um is a major baller (as the kids say)... it is funny to see Hellmuth make those patronizing remarks. You didn't expect him to be a complete paragon of humility, did you?
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26-04-2007, 8:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayneseo
AJ wouldve won
yeah i'm an idiot.
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26-04-2007, 10:29 PM
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More Hellmuth amusements

Down to the final 25 players...


Thu Apr 26 13:03:00 PDT 2007
Phil Hellmuth Gets Loud Early...
On a board of 6533 and almost $300,000 already in the pot, Kirk Morrison checks and Phil Hellmuth bets $150,000. Morrison makes the call and the river is the 2. Morrison bets $225,000 and Hellmuth announces call immediately. Morrison turns over A7 for the nut flush and Hellmuth exclaims (loudly) "NO!!!! HE DID NOT BEAT THE KINGS!!!" as he flips over KK.

Hellmuth continues to think out loud as Morrison rakes the pot...
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26-04-2007, 10:46 PM
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Is it just me, but why would Phil call this hand....
Does he not have to put the other guy on a straight, let alone a flush?

Seems strange based on how the other guy was betting...
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26-04-2007, 11:16 PM
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Part III

Thu Apr 26 13:18:00 PDT 2007

Play (Limit Poker in the WPT Championship) Like The Pros
Tommy Vu raises to $100,000 preflop and is called by Phil Hellmuth. The flop comes K87 and that is when the fun begins. Vu checks and Hellmuth bets $70,000. Vu starts asking, "Why so little Phil?" and "Are you testing me?". After a few minutes, Hellmuth calls the clock on Vu. Tournament officials count down his time and with only a few seconds remaining, Vu raises $70,000 more. Hellmuth then starts talking to Vu, telling him that they might get it all in before the hand is over. After several more minutes, Hellmuth minimum raises another $70,000 more. Vu keeps telling Hellmuth "I think you are testing me, I have to raise to see if you are bluffing me..". Vu then proceeds to make another minimum raise of $70,000. Hellmuth looks at Vu and says, "I am going to bust you in the next half hour...".

Then Phil folds...
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27-04-2007, 2:42 AM
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Quote:
Anyone who follows online poker knows that Imper1um is a major baller (as the kids say)... it is funny to see Hellmuth make those patronizing remarks. You didn't expect him to be a complete paragon of humility, did you?
You can't expect him not to hold up to his bad boy person to the slightest degree. What happens when you go to his website and you see that he's not who you thought he was at the table? Identity crisis? Phony? A nice guy? Nevertheless, I don't think he thinks twice when calling him internet guy. Probably because Phil is a world champ and "internet guy" hasn't won a major tournament? That's how Phil would probably see it anyway.


Is this on tv or something? Where are you getting your info skoldpadda? Just wonderin'. . .
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27-04-2007, 7:05 AM
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The SAGA ends

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Thu Apr 26 14:55:00 PDT 2007
Phil Hellmuth Elminated 18th ($123,760)
Phil Hellmuth raises to $90,000 in middle position and Thomas Wahlroos re-raises to $230,000. Hellmuth calls then checks in the dark as the flop comes 862. Wahlroos bets $300,000 and Hellmuth re-raises all in for $1 million. Wahlroos insta-calls and tables AA while Hellmuth shows JJ. The next two cards come 59 bringing Wahlroos up to 4.7 million in chips and sending Hellmuth to the rail with $123,760.
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28-04-2007, 10:52 PM
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Can you believe that Carlos Mortensen won wpt champion?

I'm happy that Carlos Won and amazed that a pro actually won this year.
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29-04-2007, 12:48 AM
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I'm glad when a pro wins. I, of course, was rooting for Hellmuth to win though.
 



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