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  Poker - I know it's RIGGED...
 
  #36  
01-08-2008, 6:53 PM
TheseNutsWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switch0723
your live game sounds rigged as to not produce any action hands

lock thread now plzkthx
your idiot comment proves you dont even play any live games...
 

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  #37  
01-08-2008, 6:55 PM
dsvw56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheseNutsWin
oh and you do mr einstein please teach me..
Well I may not be Einstein, but I do have a pretty good understanding of the variance in poker. Or at least enough to know that a 1000 hand sample is very statistically insignificant.
  #38  
01-08-2008, 6:58 PM
TheseNutsWin
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i love it that if somebody says that the pokerstars game is rigged right away people must bash that person. believe what you want to believe..
  #39  
01-08-2008, 6:58 PM
pantin007
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^ its you bashing everybody imo
  #40  
01-08-2008, 7:01 PM
TheseNutsWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsvw56
Well I may not be Einstein, but I do have a pretty good understanding of the variance in poker. Or at least enough to know that a 1000 hand sample is very statistically insignificant.
ok and you have the numbers you can list?
  #41  
01-08-2008, 7:01 PM
TheseNutsWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pantin007
^ its you bashing everybody imo
I am bashing??? where??
  #42  
01-08-2008, 7:04 PM
pantin007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheseNutsWin
your idiot comment proves you dont even play any live games...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheseNutsWin
oh and you do mr einstein please teach me..
just a few of ur comments and u do make some rude posts that i didnt quote here
  #43  
01-08-2008, 7:05 PM
eNTy
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Is this the Jerry Springer forum ?

I must be on the wrong site
  #44  
01-08-2008, 7:07 PM
TheseNutsWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pantin007
just a few of ur comments and u do make some rude posts that i didnt quote here
i bashed the dude cause he came in , posted a stupid comment and asked for the thread to be closed.. he got nothing smart to say then he should not even post stuff in my thread..
  #45  
01-08-2008, 7:08 PM
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Consider Statistical Sampling. This is the way polling companies predict winners from a very small number of interviews. It is also the way TV programming is determined. Remember Neilson?

OK, the problem with Neilson in the early years, was that they had a known group of samplers, who decided that they controlled the moral fabric of TV. Never mind that they were a small group of folks who could afford a color TV, and where of the ilk Neilson wanted. This ended up being a horrendous misuse of statistics.

Neilson changed, but not that much. They added a few minorities to the sampling group.

Enter the political polls. The truly independent political pols often run by big New organizations with no ax to grind, or news to make are probably the closest thing to pure stats for most of the 20th Century. They did pretty damn well at predicting voting outcomes, still do.

Enter the 21st century and we are privy to be part of the largest statistical test ever. Poker Hand distributions. These distributions were predicted and verified hundreds of times before this type testing could ever even happen.

The big picture shows little to no variance from predictions. Any one sample (session) or group of sessions (samples) will USUALLY be spread spectrum beneath the bell curve of possibilities. But a significant number will show abnormalities by having an unusual amount of hands that would be in the extremes under that bell curve. And with the enormous (gazillions) number of hands, and players and sessions, it would be rigged if any of those groups continually showed an even distribution. They must show deviation from the norm. That's normal!

All the hands you personally will ever play are not enough to prove an uneven distribution. But before long you will approach theoretically correct proportionality.

So there!
  #46  
01-08-2008, 7:10 PM
TheseNutsWin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11
Consider Statistical Sampling. This is the way polling companies predict winners from a very small number of interviews. It is also the way TV programming is determined. Remember Neilson?

OK, the problem with Neilson in the early years, was that they had a known group of samplers, who decided that they controlled the moral fabric of TV. Never mind that they were a small group of folks who could afford a color TV, and where of the ilk Neilson wanted. This ended up being a horrendous misuse of statistics.

Neilson changed, but not that much. They added a few minorities to the sampling group.

Enter the political polls. The truly independent political pols often run by big New organizations with no ax to grind, or news to make are probably the closest thing to pure stats for most of the 20th Century. They did pretty damn well at predicting voting outcomes, still do.

Enter the 21st century and we are privy to be part of the largest statistical test ever. Poker Hand distributions. These distributions were predicted and verified hundreds of times before this type testing could ever even happen.

The big picture shows little to no variance from predictions. Any one sample (session) or group of sessions (samples) will USUALLY be spread spectrum beneath the bell curve of possibilities. But a significant number will show abnormalities by having an unusual amount of hands that would be in the extremes under that bell curve. And with the enormous (gazillions) number of hands, and players and sessions, it would be rigged if any of those groups continually showed an even distribution. They must show deviation from the norm. That's normal!

All the hands you personally will ever play are not enough to prove an uneven distribution. But before long you will approach theoretically correct proportionality.

So there!
so do you have the numbers from the gazillions of hands samples from live and online game so we can compare?
  #47  
01-08-2008, 7:12 PM
pantin007
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DJ, that was brilliant A+
  #48  
01-08-2008, 7:12 PM
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If it was rigged then everyone would lose.....I have made profits along with other members of CC, so why didn't we get cheated????? I'll tell you why...because it's not rigged!!
  #49  
01-08-2008, 7:13 PM
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Mr OP, what part of insufficient sample size do you not understand? You know it's rigged, based on???????? You sit here and compare your 'knowledge" to belief(or no) in God, attacking the Catholics for lack of proof. You sir, are a troll, and I have one very standard answer for " i know it's rigged" trolls:

A KABONG
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  #50  
01-08-2008, 7:15 PM
roundcat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheseNutsWin
I guess everytime you are having a conversation with somebody you require them to prove their stories.. ex..
John i went to the store yesterday and i bought 1 pound of potatoes for $1.. you go... OH NO!! REALLY? show me the receipt!! or i wont believe it...
Potatoes are a known quanitity that we naturally accept as fact. If John instead told us that he went to the store and the potatoes had sprouted arms and lips and were animatedly conversing amongst themselves, it's likely we'd want to see for ourselves.
  #51  
01-08-2008, 7:15 PM
juiceeQ
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This is going nowhere fast, and since El Kabong has now made his appearance, I'll be closing now.

Seriously, there are 48203942390897489237489234789237489237489274 threads on this very topic. It does get old rehashing it again and again and again and again......
 


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