I can't beat 10NL!

#1 22nd June 2009, 8:59 PM

Okay here is the thing, I am beating all limits besides 10NL, I was crushing 5NL, and I am doing rather well at 25NL which I know is out of my bankroll

I am getting smashed in 10NL and I don't know what to do, I can't get paid of, and can't make up any ground. I know I need to beat 10NL, because it is much better for my bankroll then continuing to play 25NL but it isn't really to good for my bankroll to keep getting smashed at 10NL.

#2 22nd June 2009, 9:10 PM

People are generally loose in 10NL, so maybe tighten up. Don't know too much to say as I'm not sure of the exact situation.

#3 22nd June 2009, 9:36 PM

Provide more info about your play, buy-in, and stats at 10NL and maybe someone will be able to give some decent advice.

#4 22nd June 2009, 9:41 PM

...and definitely your sample size for these levels. I'm betting its too small to put much significance in winning at 25nl (otherwise you'd likely be rolled for 25nl by now) and maybe not enough of a sample at 10nl for it to be anything more than a bad run.

#5 22nd June 2009, 10:11 PM

Okay at 10NL: 4007 hands -7.64BB/100 I buy in for the max, play 100BB tables mainly 6MAX, play premium hands in early position, open to steal blinds in late position, and mine for sets.

I'll just throw 25NL in here too: 620 hands 26.59BB/100, exact same strategy, buy in etc.

#6 23rd June 2009, 8:26 PM

Anybody?

#7 23rd June 2009, 8:32 PM

You can't know how you do at a given limit over 600 hands. 4000 might be a swing too, but it depends on whether you feel like you've been on the good or bad side of variance. It's quite easy to have a 4k hand bad streak, even when you can crush the limit. Then again, it's possible that you are still a losing player at 10NL, in which case you should do some hand analysis. What are your stats?

#8 23rd June 2009, 8:32 PM

Both 10nl and 25nl are tiny samples and should in no way reflect your expected win rate.
Put in some more hands at 10nl, do some studying and stay away from 25nl until your rolled for it, imo.

#9 23rd June 2009, 8:33 PM

You have your BB/100 so you have vpip/pfr, steal %, wtsd%, etc. right? Those are the stats people would want...and yea very small 25NL smaple, small 10NL sample.

#10 24th June 2009, 3:42 AM

Okay I'll post some more stats when I get to 20K hands.

#11 24th June 2009, 7:04 PM

My advice is sometimes you need to know your weakness. Play five dollar until you build up a big enough bank roll then just skip the 10 dollar game and go to the 25. sounds mental thought

#12 24th June 2009, 7:28 PM

That sample size is nothing in both. Most likely simple variance. It's possible you'd be a long-term loser at both or possible you'd be a long-term winner at both. That sample however means close to nothing.

#13 26th June 2009, 8:54 AM

Okay well I'm playing 10NL on fulltilt which I just found out has an absolutely vicious rake percentage at 10NL so that my be at least a part of my problem.

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