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  Poker - How should I have handled this?
 
  #1  
03-01-2008, 10:47 PM
phatjose
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How should I have handled this?

So this afternoon I was confronted with a blatant act of collusion. The end result of the hand is irrelevant, but it was extremely annoying during the hand. I sent off an email to pokerstars to report the two. Should I have even bothered?

Here's the hand:
PokerStars Game #14297826076: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/01/03 - 16:21:40 (ET)
Table 'Cosette' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: phatjose ($4.46 in chips)
Seat 3: joyride1971 ($2.86 in chips)
Seat 4: chefwoo ($2.73 in chips)
Seat 5: hector778 ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Soundmachine ($4.26 in chips)
Seat 9: djdawg9 ($3.84 in chips)
djdawg9: posts small blind $0.01
evasive_one: is sitting out
evasive_one leaves the table
phatjose: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to phatjose [8h 8s]
joyride1971: folds
chefwoo: folds
hector778 said, "sieht ganz danach aus..."
hector778: calls $0.02
Soundmachine: raises $0.04 to $0.06
djdawg9: folds
phatjose: calls $0.04
hector778: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [8c 6d Qs]
phatjose: checks
hector778: bets $0.02
Soundmachine: raises $0.04 to $0.06
phatjose: calls $0.06
hector778: calls $0.04
*** TURN *** [8c 6d Qs] A
phatjose: checks
hector778: checks
Soundmachine: bets $0.14
phatjose: raises $0.26 to $0.40
hector778: folds
hector778 said, "nein" <---- WTF
Soundmachine: calls $0.26
*** RIVER *** [8c 6d Qs Ad] J♣
phatjose: bets $1
hector778 said, "nein" <----- WTF x2
Soundmachine said, "nein"
 

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  #2  
03-01-2008, 10:49 PM
arkadiy
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I think that's German for No.
  #3  
03-01-2008, 10:50 PM
phatjose
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It is most definitely german for no, which is why I am so irritated by it.
  #4  
03-01-2008, 10:52 PM
arkadiy
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So if it was English it wouldn't matter? I don't get it....
  #5  
03-01-2008, 10:53 PM
phatjose
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He's clearly telling the other player (who is actually involved in the hand) to not call my bet. The language doesn't matter, it's the substance of the message.
  #6  
03-01-2008, 11:01 PM
arkadiy
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If you're in the middle of a hand, you can say "call" or "fold" it doesn't matter, not very nice but I don't think it's illegal on PokerStars.
  #7  
04-01-2008, 12:40 AM
switch0723
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phatjose
He's clearly telling the other player (who is actually involved in the hand) to not call my bet.
How can you possibly tell what he is meaning by saying no. I doubt pokerstars can do anything since he may be answering a question he was asked before, he may have been meaning to type on an IM and it flicked to the screen. He says something in german at the start of hte hand so he may have been saying no has a response. There are so many reasons for it that i doubt there was any collusion going on
  #8  
04-01-2008, 1:11 AM
ChuckTs
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Any other text he typed before that?

The previous chat entry means "looks completely like it" according to babel fish, but that's not even enough to nab the guy for collusion.
  #9  
04-01-2008, 1:17 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phatjose
He's clearly telling the other player (who is actually involved in the hand) to not call my bet.
umm, no he isn't, any further unmentioned context aside.
  #10  
04-01-2008, 1:55 AM
Goldog
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He said "Nien Nien"

He's holding German Virgin
 




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