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PokerStars Game #11173376190: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/07/28 - 00:14:06 (ET)
Table 'Alinda II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: LukyLarry39 ($15.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Senses Fails ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: zahi1974 ($35.90 in chips)
Seat 5: ripptyde ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 6: LigariuZ ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 7: hkrt ($43.10 in chips)
Seat 8: makeo54 ($26.50 in chips)
Seat 9: BigHops ($22.45 in chips)
makeo54: posts small blind $0.10
BigHops: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ripptyde [8c 7c]
LukyLarry39: calls $0.25
Senses Fails: folds
zahi1974: folds
ripptyde: raises $1 to $1.25
LigariuZ: calls $1.25
hkrt: folds
makeo54: folds
BigHops: folds
LukyLarry39: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [4c 2h 7h]
LukyLarry39: checks
ripptyde: bets $2.75
LigariuZ: folds
LukyLarry39: raises $2.75 to $5.50
ripptyde: raises $10.65 to $16.15 and is all-in
LukyLarry39: calls $8.65 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4c 2h 7h] 8♠
*** RIVER *** [4c 2h 7h 8s] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LukyLarry39: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
ripptyde: shows [8c 7c] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
ripptyde collected $30.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32.40 | Rake $1.60
Board [4c 2h 7h 8s Th]
Seat 1: LukyLarry39 showed [Kd Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Senses Fails folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: zahi1974 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ripptyde showed [8c 7c] and won ($30.80) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 6: LigariuZ folded on the Flop
Seat 7: hkrt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: makeo54 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: BigHops (big blind) folded before Flop

yea he should have re raised u like 2 or 3$ pre flop and u got very lucky even though he played em bad pre flop it was a good move on flop to push all in and u made a call with top pair and just got lucky. it probably wasnt the best way to play kings but then again u did get lucky

his smooth calling was stupid, but checking for the checkraise wasn't (Though I personally would've bet out). You just got lucky

no actually I have just been playing on Stars long enough to know that K/K sucks. His own fault for slow playing pre flop. I still call pre flop if he leads out for say a 4-6X pre flop raise but if I bet into that flop and he reraises me I am prepared to fold that hand on the flop. Serves him right for limping UTG and then flat calling my pre flop raise. Bottom line is you don't get cute with a big pocket pair and give cheap cards. You raise and either go to a showdown....or you raise and bet the flop hard. His approach to playing KK utg is terrible and I do not feel one bit of remorse for 'getting lucky' and snapping him off.

no actually I have just been playing on Stars long enough to know that K/K sucks...lmao i would love to play against ya...yes i agree that he should have re raised u and i bet u wouldnt fold on flop either. maybe u would but i dont think so since u said u would of still called pre flop even if he re raised ya and dont think u would fold on flop with top pair. im thinking u would of put him on AQ or Ak and still called.

:::yawn:::

PokerStars Game #11173706463: Tournament #56685321, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/28 - 00:38:16 (ET)
Table '56685321 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: raimacs (1510 in chips)
Seat 2: ripptyde (330 in chips)
Seat 3: varanocalcio (2860 in chips)
Seat 4: TX Princess (1350 in chips)
Seat 5: Dilinger (1470 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Junaid0 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: US Blues (1410 in chips)
Seat 9: hdurden07 (3070 in chips)
hdurden07: posts small blind 15
raimacs: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ripptyde [Ad 5h]
ripptyde: raises 300 to 330 and is all-in
varanocalcio: calls 330
TX Princess: folds
Dilinger: folds
Junaid0: folds
US Blues: raises 1080 to 1410 and is all-in
hdurden07: folds
raimacs: folds
varanocalcio: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s Ac 9c]
*** TURN *** [8s Ac 9c] Q♥
*** RIVER *** [8s Ac 9c Qh] 9♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ripptyde: shows [Ad 5h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
US Blues: shows [Kc Ks] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
ripptyde collected 1035 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1035 | Rake 0
Board [8s Ac 9c Qh 9d]
Seat 1: raimacs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ripptyde showed [Ad 5h] and won (1035) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 3: varanocalcio folded before Flop
Seat 4: TX Princess folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Dilinger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Junaid0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: US Blues (button) showed [Kc Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 9: hdurden07 (small blind) folded before Flop

if I lead out on the flop and he repops me hard...I'm gone...assuming he had fired out a big pre flop raise...I would give him respect and lay it down giving him credit for an overpair.

The way he played this should be a lesson is exactly not how to slowplay..limping KK under the gun is retarded...especially in a micro cash game....late stage tourney with huge blinds...then maybe I can see limping to trap...but even then it would have to be a full table or I am raising.

lol...obviously u were gonna hit an Ace with A rag

u should just play all of yr hands now..ur hitting everything like crazy lol

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lol I love closing out a heads up match like this >

PokerStars Game #11173873977: Tournament #56686547, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/28 - 00:50:28 (ET)
Table '56686547 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DS215 (940 in chips)
Seat 2: ripptyde (2060 in chips)
ripptyde: posts small blind 10
DS215: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ripptyde [Th 2h]
ripptyde: calls 10
DS215: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 5h 5s]
DS215: bets 20
ripptyde: raises 80 to 100
DS215: calls 80
*** TURN *** [6h 5h 5s] 2♦
DS215: bets 20
ripptyde: raises 660 to 680
DS215: calls 660
*** RIVER *** [6h 5h 5s 2d] [Ts]
DS215: bets 20
ripptyde: raises 160 to 180
DS215: calls 120 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ripptyde: shows [Th 2h] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
DS215: shows [3c 6d] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
ripptyde collected 1880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1880 | Rake 0
Board [6h 5h 5s 2d Ts]
Seat 1: DS215 (big blind) showed [3c 6d] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 2: ripptyde (button) (small blind) showed [Th 2h] and won (1880) with two pair, Tens and Fives

lmao hahahahahahahahahah the good ole doyle brunson hand 2 10 got to love it nice runner runner

Your first hand
Let me see, you put all your money in with top pair and an 8 kicker. He played the check/raise and you go over the top? Most people have dreams of this happening. He had you smoked and you caught 1 of 5 outs to beat him. You put all your money in with a 20% chance to win. Who played it bad? Thread should be how not to play 87 unless holding a horseshoe made of 4 leave clovers.

Second hand.
He has you drawing to 3 cards and you catch. Hmmm. You did get unlucky facing a big pocket pair when you pushed but I understand your need to push. Nice catch and move on. I am more curious how you are down to 330 of 1500 at the second blind level?

You third hand. Yet another suckout. You are the king of them I guess. You just keep reraising with bottom pair and he keeps calling. Must have had a great read to know he will call reraises with nothing otherwise you are donking off most of your stack with only 3 cards to save you on the river.

IMO, you keep playing like this and your money will disappear sooner or later.

thats exactly what i said to him ^^

Full Tracking : Stats from 2005 - present (73% ROI)

















(Late May/ June)

Who hoo, you make money. You just posted 3 hands and two of them you played badly. What am I going to say? Keep up the good work? Nice play, you played that well.

Titans I just suggest you choose your words carefully before you imply that I am a donkey. Trust me there is a method to the madness. I lose plenty of pots but I think a 73% ROI is a decent enough win rate over the last couple of years to have earned the right to post some questionable plays. Its all for the sake of entertainment value anyway. I apologize for not playing like a bot...I like to get creative sometimes and yes I love snapping off big hands and firing triple barrels with air. It makes me happy Here is a special token of my appreciation. GG and good night

PokerStars Game #11175385985: Tournament #56694283, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/28 - 03:11:46 (ET)
Table '56694283 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: elmani111 (1690 in chips)
Seat 2: leilu12 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: SwipeyClaw (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: kadidlehoper (1340 in chips)
Seat 5: garp5a (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Trunkmonkee (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: PayUs (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: ripptyde (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: graf L. (1500 in chips)
SwipeyClaw: posts small blind 10
kadidlehoper: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ripptyde [2c 4c]
garp5a: calls 20
Trunkmonkee: folds
PayUs: folds
ripptyde: calls 20
graf L.: folds
elmani111: folds
leilu12: folds
SwipeyClaw: raises 40 to 60
kadidlehoper: calls 40
garp5a: calls 40
ripptyde: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4h Ks]
SwipeyClaw: checks
kadidlehoper: bets 60
garp5a: folds
ripptyde: calls 60
SwipeyClaw: folds
*** TURN *** [Qc 4h Ks] A♦
kadidlehoper: bets 80
ripptyde: raises 320 to 400
kadidlehoper: folds
ripptyde collected 520 from pot
ripptyde: shows [2c 4c] (a pair of Fours)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 4h Ks Ad]
Seat 1: elmani111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: leilu12 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SwipeyClaw (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: kadidlehoper (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: garp5a folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Trunkmonkee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: PayUs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ripptyde collected (520)
Seat 9: graf L. folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Blimey, the guy's got bragging rights, you can't deny him that. Those stats are impressive! But, taking the title of the OP into account, that first hand history does exactly what it says on the tin.

Regardless of Ripptyde's blatantly questionable play, LuckyLarry limped with KK and should hang his head in shame.

LAG

I never said you were a donkey! YOU posted 2 of 3 hands that you played poorly and are trying to make it look like you knew you would win. What am I suppose to say. I am just saying that you keep putting your money like that is not positive EV plays and making sure others see it too. Long term it looks like you are doing well but in this thread you look like you are just on a lucky streak. All three of those hands should have ended the other way and you are railing every time. Your good day was not based on solid plays.

How did Larry play his KK bad? He got someone to overcommit with top pair. How is it bad to get all your money into the middle with and 80% chance to win? How can you play it wrong when you get someone esle to put all of your money in when BEHIND? He did not win but over the long hall that play will win alot more money than he will lose. You are only looking at it from the results after you sucked out on him . On the flop he had you smeared and you put all your money in. Any pocket pair over 7 had you beat. I still think you played that hand worse than Larry.

He did not play his KK textbook and you mock him. In the next breath you say that is how you love to play. Look in a mirror. He played a hand differently than books say and should have been payed off and you make fun of him. I say you played it worse than him and you get mad at me? I was just pointing out that you were not playing those hands very well. I can start posting a bunch of my hands where I make horrible reads and suck out too but I won't say the other person is and idiot or played it badly. Why not say oops, I got lucky here.

The heads up one can go either way and I said that the first time. You pot committed yourself with bottom pair when he called a reraise on the flop. I understand if you said something like I thought he was on a draw and boy did I get lucky catching one of my 5 outs.

Your stats are impressive and it looks like LAG is working for you. Don't go around trying to make some else look bad when you played the hand worse than him and suck out. I will gladly take that flop and his hand every time.

P.S. You are the one posting these hands for us to look at. If you don't like someone pointing something out about your play then don't post them. This is a learning forum and others have a right to say something that might improve your or someone elses game. I was just stating that there was another way to look at the hand besides who is raking in the pots.

I agree with this. He got unlucky slowplaying the KK no need to try to make him look silly. You def. got lucky on that hand but thats poker.