| This is a discussion on How much to raise preflop? within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; I've been thinking that I raise by too small amounts. I'm considering to make a rule when I raise: Raise 3 big blinds plus 1 ... |
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| How much to raise preflop? I've been thinking that I raise by too small amounts. I'm considering to make a rule when I raise: Raise 3 big blinds plus 1 blind for every limper. This could also be applied to reraising I suppose. If the raise/reraise is more than 50% of my pot, push all in. What do you guys think? it is going to create much bigger pots, and help my tight aggressive style. I find that I'm not making enough chips fast enough so this may help. There is a catch to it though, when I try to do continuation bets I have to put a lot more money into the pot, it is a risky style. |
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| Personally, I think you should vary the size of your raises from between 2x to 4x the bb or more depending on your position at the table and tournament stage if playing one. Standard 3x + 1 for each limper raises will do the same to disguise your hand as varying your bets will, but what it won't do is get you those extra chippies you're looking for. If you vary your raise sizes independent of your hand strength and, perhaps, more dependent on your table position then when you do get called you've built a nicer pot for yourself. Sizing bets to maximize your wins is an important tool to have in your poker arsenal. |
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| As someone else said, your raises should vary depending on your position. Also your strength and stack size should come into play as well. Stack Size being the least important (unless you are short stacked and need to push) A 3 or 4 x times the BB usually will be enough to eliminate most of the limpers who just want to see a flop making it easier for you to go heads up against one opponent. Varying the size will make your range harder to guess. Also when you are betting, take your time. So many online players pre-click their folds, or their checks etc. It really makes their bets stand out when they have to enter an amount, it shows me that they have a decent starting hand. And then I act accordingly. |
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| re: How much to raise preflop? poker ok then, vary the raises sounds like a good thing, but how much should I vary it by? I want to make a rule for me to use. I think the amount I raise by should also be dependent of how many chips on average do the players have. If everyone has 100 blinds, I should be raising differently if they have 15 on average. To the person who wrote I should raise dependent on the situation: I do understand what you mean; however, by doing that I think I will giving away tells, since I play with a lot of regulars. I think I could do that occasionally to mess with their heads, but not often. |
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| Generally that's right. I like to raise 3-4x early on when blinds are really small, then 3x when they are medium, and finally 2.5x when they are huge. Just a general rule. Don't be afraid to mix it up though with different cards and from different positions. Make sure you don't give anything away though, like you raise 4x with big hands and 3x with medium...or 2x with big hands from EP...or anything like that really. |
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| Always raise the same number of blinds when in a certain position if u are not an expert. It is the simplyest way to always hide what u have cose nobody knows if u raise with AA or 72. Sometimes i use another strategy. I simply raise the pot. It is a big move but also it is easyest to bluff after the flop if somebody calls. Always raising the pot preflop is an agressive way of playing but also u have to worry not to be caught when playing marginal hands. In tourneys i use 2.5 early position and 4.5 from the button or i limp sometimes with pocket pair or suited connector when the table is full of weak players to speculate the hand . At microstakes ring game i use te second strategy cose u cannot intimidate anyone with a raise of 4 cents or 6 cents and the tables are full of limpers. So when i raise the pot i show streght. I wouldn't do that at 25c-50c. |
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| I follow Phil Gordon's advice which is to vary by position in an average situtation - around 2.5x in early position, 3x in mid, 3.5x in late, and 3x on the small blind. Obviously these are just guidelines; if it's an especially tight table then I'll drop it by a small amount, and the opposite for loose. In the later stages of the tournament if blinds are especially high then that changes things too. Regardless of the situation, I always do my best to play every hand exactly the same, regardless of it being AA or AT |
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| re: How much to raise preflop? poker increase from 3 to 4 times the big blind can have good results in pre flop, but it is emphasized that depends on its position on the table, how many players have paid, and also, what would be the value of buy-in tournament. |
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Your range is also stronger and bigger preflop raise sizes dramatically increase the pot size post-flop, this is the main reason for raising more in EP, it allows you to play bigger pots with bigger hands. Tournaments, I'm sure someone else can cover this better than I can but the basics of it are that you're relying on fold equity a lot more and since your range is stronger in EP you can get away with a smaller raise (which means it doesn't need to work as often) and you still get a lot of fold equity. Note that this doesn't work in cash because implied odds are so good for the guy in position if you raise small this is partly because stacks are deeper and partly because the other guy can rebuy where in a tournament he'd risk often crippling his stack doing goofy stuff with SCers and similar here. As for raising more on the button, to be honest I don't get that one, but it's Chris Ferguson who seems to most strongly advocate this method so there's probably some game theory rationalisation for it. I'll do some reading up on it when I'm not multitasking as much as I am at the moment but hopefully someone will save me the trouble and just tell us the answer. |
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<-- Isn't "Dito" with 2 "t's"? |
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How often do your steals have to be succesful when raising 6bb compared to 4bb to show a proffit? Do you think you gain enough fold equity by betting the extra 2bb to make up for that? Do you want to play bigger pots when you're bluffing or when you've got the best hand? I suggest you figure out the answers to all of those questions and adjust your bet sizing accordingly. |
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