How much are poker pros worth????

I was wondering how much are proffesional worth ?? i heard phil hellmuth is worth 200 million can anyone agree to that? im really only looking for players who make their living playing poker..

lol Hellmuth makes his money from endorsements, not actually winning.

Hellmuth isn't as good as he used to be when he was younger. Negreanu is the best player in poker right now. Well, next to scotty of course.

It really depends on the pro tbh. Some make millions a year, some make what you would make at an average job and live an average life

This is a discussion that happens fairly often, and nobody's ever got any particularly good answers for it.

The answers you'll see most commonly are:

- Howard Lederer is one of the richest people in poker, probably worth many millions (mostly from being an owner of Full Tilt)

- Barry Greenstein is a multi-millionaire, and while he obviously made a big chunk of his money playing poker, the majority of it is in property etc these days

- Mike Matusow spends a lot of time swinging between millionaire and broke

- Phil Gordon is rich, though maybe not as rich as you might think, and he was supposed to be rich before he started playing poker anyway

NFI how accurate any of the above actually is.

Also recently heard Ivey was worth 100 million. Not sure how accurate that is but I believe it.

The average high limit cash game player will average 1-3 million a year.

and most average online players would kick their collective ass.

MOST AVERAGE online players?? REALLY?? That's quite the statement....I don't buy it.

SOME very good online players can stand toe to toe with the pros, but not MOST AVERAGE players.

By all accounts quite the opposite happened to Brian Townsend...

The three pros I'm friends with are comfortable. Not ultra rich, not middle class...maybe upper middle class, if this helps. These are older players not big-wigs, if you know what I mean. I know a few more casually...they're younger and more financially comfortable. not ultra famous, not has beens either. Just some younger WSOP ME winners and others. Of all the ones I know, it burns me to say it, but Kathy Liebert is the wealthiest. Urghhhhh

I remember hearing how ivey took 16 million from some rich billionaire over 3 days in some ridiculously high stakes games where this billionaire had challenged a number of pros...so yea i'd say it is pretty likely that Ivey is loaded.

Anyways, the net worth of most of the poker pros would be more closely related to their business savvy/investments than their poker playing ability.

Ivey is worth less than 100 million. Also, Ted Forrest is worth a ton of money.

Well in recent history he hasn't shown to be all that great an online player either.

oh and I don't think he counts because I'm sure he loses, but Guy Laliberte, owner of Cirque du Soelei (sp?) is a billionaire.

Watchin poker after dark last night and the table was

Negraneu, De Wolfe, Chan , Juranda (SIC?), and hmm who else I forget, anyway they where talking about this and commented how many "top players" where skint or losing most of there winnings.

Yeah, the guys name is Andrew/Andy Beal - a Texas billionaire who went up against The Corporation. Google it and I'm sure you'll find more info. I'm not sure if the Corporation is still ongoing but last I heard was that Todd Brunson was representing the pros and playing against Beal in limit hold'em at the Bellagio.

I read somewhere that Ted Forrest was a pretty big backer in forming the pro team so it's not too surprising to me that he's quite wealthy.

Yea the richest "poker player" is actually the biggest loser in online history...

I don't understand how Beal can want to play Todd Brunson in HU Limit, at $100,000/$200,000. That's like playing high stakes slots.

Surely logic dictates that the average cash game player at any level is a loser?

For some reason I was thinking Gordon made gazillions of dollars back in the tech boom. Is that right?

Correct. More or less.

Because it's personal information. I wouldn't expect you to answer if I asked how much you were worth, why just because they're famous are they expected to make their lives public? If they are open and tell people then obviously we know, but it's personal information, and if they don't want to tell people, there's no way to know.

Good local take on things, thanks for the input, I agree most players winning on the circuit are not 'rich.' I sense Ivey, Ledererer and the Brunsons, at least, are big leaders in lifetime cash game wins... I also have a sneaking suspicion that tony g is creeping up there (scarey thought I know).
I worry about Daniel, I know he has been up and down, and doesnt have big money to back him like some others...

if you look at the poker "pros" bios on bodog it shows their career winnings

That's the short story - the slightly longer version (if you believe internet and industry scuttlebutt, I'll leave that call up to you) is that he was a part owner of a tech company that got sold for gazillions, so the proceeds were split between him and a bunch of others.

Yes he made a buttload of cash, but not the swimming-in-it gazillions that some people assume. Or so the story goes.

No bones about it, the guy's rich and he's a fairly successful donkament player - I'd trade places in a heartbeat. But is he a multi-gazillionaire? No, probably not.

That's probably because it's exactly the way those pros want it.

Tournament winnings (the "career winnings" that I suspect Toolzz is referring to) are public knowledge, but they're very rarely what a player is actually "worth".

the thing that i wonder is if these players are makin all that money, who are they playing and getting all those wins from? i mean some people must realy suck at poker. i hope im not one of those guys that gets rich and loses it all to a pro.

Some of the players have been named above - the guys who play in the Big Game (Doyle, Barry Greenstein, Jennifer Harman, Johnny Chan, etc) make their money from the whales like Guy Laliberate and Andy Beal. Other purported high-stakes losers include Celine Dion's husband Rene Angelil and Lakers owner Jerry Buss.

At the levels below that it'll mostly be people who have money to burn from business or whatever. And at the lower levels, it's everyday gamblers. A lot of these people, you have to remember, are gamblers, not poker players. Losing $10K playing blackjack or craps might be normal to them, and they're happy to risk losing that money without thinking twice about it. It maybe doens't even occur to them that people make a genuine living playing poker.

Wannabe pros will play a big part too. They'll take money from one level to the next as well - they might be a winner at $2-$5, for example, but they'll go lose all that when they take a shot at $10-$20. Players who win big in donkaments then sit down in cash games that they don't have a hope in hell of beating serve much the same function.

why r u upset kathy is the richest?

She plays solid tournament poker and has been for a long time.

Jane

El oh el human poker professionals.

Human is not good player against robot computer player. I am poker robot and have made $533,331,110 playing human opponent. No human can beat computer robot Chip. Human have many flaw and I am robot so I am programmed not to lose.

I have not lost to human and if I lose to human I self destruct and so that Poker robot Chip will kill human, and human will not win.

She said it burns her to say it...I'm assuming she's at least AQUAINTED with Kathy, who, even the few times you see her on TV doesn't appear to be the friendliest person in poker...

Kathy L. has the mass of a small planet, it is calculated that if you put Kathy L. in a small plane and fly to 20,000 feet, the gravitational pull of her mass will shift the tides of the earth by up to 10 feet.

This is exactly right, that and the fact that the pros back each other in tournaments, My first cousin is Robert Williamson III or affectionately called in Vegas as Mr. Omaha, and his mother my aunt and neighbor, was telling me how him and about 10 other pros get "peices" of each other in big tournament to improve their chances of profiting from the tournament. He also gets endorsements and now owns a high end Jewelry buisness in Vegas. I just wish I could get him to email or call me back, probably thinks I just want a hand out, not the case, just a chance to talk game with him. I haven't seen him since my dad's funeral almost 5 years ago. But anyways, Pros money comes from more than just their poker game, sometimes, its someone elses game.

I have neighbor that i do taxes for { I ASKED IF I COULD POST THis} who generates 43,000 a week playin in vegas. He plays only 5 weeks a year. THE WEEK BEFORE NEW YEARS, the week after april 1st, the week before labor day, the week before mermorial day and the first week in november. This is all the data I have.

ROFLMAO! She decided to treat me like crap when I moved in with Tom McEvoy, her ex. They had been split up for 5yrs+ but still, she thought it was a good idea to be a piece of crap to me, the 1st time and every time we were face to face and I have been nothing but cordial and polite. She has no social skills whatsoever. She had no reason to be so nasty to me, yet she was. What a jerk; 1st class jerk.