TheGenera1
Visionary
Silver Level
Hi guys, I am new to the poker forums and I have some questions that I would like to ask. I came to these forums because google can only do so much.
I have been playing poker on and off for a couple of years now, and I do well in the casino's (in fact I have never walked away with less than double my buy in ) I am trying to make a profit playing online poker using poker stars and at first I lost a lot of money. I currently am at the stage where If I really focus I can break even over the course of a week. Anyway the reason for my ability to only break even comes from the fact that I lose a lot more money to donky's that I win from them+good players combined.
For example with a rock/multi table player on a 0.5/0.10 I know 90 percent of the time exactly where I stand in the hand. I can tell if they hit, I can tell if they are strong/weak and I can almost put them on an exact hand. And this means making money from them is slow but steady.
But because my Bank roll is $100 give or take 10 dollars depending on the days take. (or lack thereof) I can not play higher stakes. Which means I am constantly faced with complete idiots (as hellmuth would say) and I have no idea where I stand in the hand.
So with out any more intro's from me I will place my question to you followed by a senario.
How do you know where you stand in a hand with some one who calls HUGE pre flop raises with Ace x or 56s or 22 or any two paint cards?
I am not joking when I say that EVERY time I raise a large amount pre flop to narrow the field and push the idiots off their marginal hands they call my raise and flop 2 pair with my self holding top pair top kicker. HOW do you know where you stand?
An example.. Earlier today I was playing a 0.5/0.10 game and I was in the CO position. The resident table donk raised to 3 times the BB which is 30cents. I have been watching him for a while and know that he will call any re-raise. So anyway the table folds round to me and I happen to land on Ace Queen off suit...... I think to my self If i raise this, he will call, if I limp this, I have no bluffing potential and it is just bad play. So I decide to raise it to a $1 and surprise surprise the donky calls the 70 cent re-raise.
Anyway the flop comes down xJQ rainbow. I now have Top pair top kicker. I bet $1 desperatly trying to drive this irrational opponent off the hand. Anyway, he reraises to $2 and I have just 2 dollars left now so I re raise all in. He calls and flips over Queen Jack.... to make 2 pair. Anyway I was lucky enough for the Turn and the River to bring King King giving me a Higher two pair and took a nice $10 pot.
However, most of the time I will raise with my King King or Ace Ace a Huge huge amount pre flop to try and drive the original donk raiser off the pot, because quite frankly, I hate playing with them. They seem to always make runner runner straights/flushes. But anyway, I raise with my Huge poket pairs, and the idiots will call with any Pocket pair or Paint X and hit either 2 pair or a pair of aces over my kings. What do you do?
Another type of player is the slightly better but still terrible donk, who has a better idea of what starting hands to call raises with but has NO idea of his hand strenght after the flop or of what the other player could hold. For example,
Scenario 1 I raise 5 times the BB with my Pocket Aces
-Donk calls with Ace Jack, Flop comes J 10 2 Rainbow, Donk bets a large amount, I re raise and donk shoves me all in. I call and win the pot.
Scenario 2 (same player) I raise 5 BB with Pocket Aces,
-Donk calls with 55. Flop comes 2 5 6 as you can see the donk has hit a set.
Donk bets, I reraise donk shoves, I call I lose the showdown to trips.
Scenario 3 Aces again with a large raise from me pre flop.
-Donk calls with 56o Flop comes 10 5 6 Again, I will lose the pot because the idiot has flopped 2 pair.
Scenario 4 I have Aces, large raise..
-Donk calls this time with J9o and the flop comes 10 9 2 The same betting takes place donk shoves etc I call and I win the showdown with a higher pair.
So after all this information ^ how on earth do you put some one on a hand who has no idea of the value of their holdings compared to what is out there?
Thanks
I have been playing poker on and off for a couple of years now, and I do well in the casino's (in fact I have never walked away with less than double my buy in ) I am trying to make a profit playing online poker using poker stars and at first I lost a lot of money. I currently am at the stage where If I really focus I can break even over the course of a week. Anyway the reason for my ability to only break even comes from the fact that I lose a lot more money to donky's that I win from them+good players combined.
For example with a rock/multi table player on a 0.5/0.10 I know 90 percent of the time exactly where I stand in the hand. I can tell if they hit, I can tell if they are strong/weak and I can almost put them on an exact hand. And this means making money from them is slow but steady.
But because my Bank roll is $100 give or take 10 dollars depending on the days take. (or lack thereof) I can not play higher stakes. Which means I am constantly faced with complete idiots (as hellmuth would say) and I have no idea where I stand in the hand.
So with out any more intro's from me I will place my question to you followed by a senario.
How do you know where you stand in a hand with some one who calls HUGE pre flop raises with Ace x or 56s or 22 or any two paint cards?
I am not joking when I say that EVERY time I raise a large amount pre flop to narrow the field and push the idiots off their marginal hands they call my raise and flop 2 pair with my self holding top pair top kicker. HOW do you know where you stand?
An example.. Earlier today I was playing a 0.5/0.10 game and I was in the CO position. The resident table donk raised to 3 times the BB which is 30cents. I have been watching him for a while and know that he will call any re-raise. So anyway the table folds round to me and I happen to land on Ace Queen off suit...... I think to my self If i raise this, he will call, if I limp this, I have no bluffing potential and it is just bad play. So I decide to raise it to a $1 and surprise surprise the donky calls the 70 cent re-raise.
Anyway the flop comes down xJQ rainbow. I now have Top pair top kicker. I bet $1 desperatly trying to drive this irrational opponent off the hand. Anyway, he reraises to $2 and I have just 2 dollars left now so I re raise all in. He calls and flips over Queen Jack.... to make 2 pair. Anyway I was lucky enough for the Turn and the River to bring King King giving me a Higher two pair and took a nice $10 pot.
However, most of the time I will raise with my King King or Ace Ace a Huge huge amount pre flop to try and drive the original donk raiser off the pot, because quite frankly, I hate playing with them. They seem to always make runner runner straights/flushes. But anyway, I raise with my Huge poket pairs, and the idiots will call with any Pocket pair or Paint X and hit either 2 pair or a pair of aces over my kings. What do you do?
Another type of player is the slightly better but still terrible donk, who has a better idea of what starting hands to call raises with but has NO idea of his hand strenght after the flop or of what the other player could hold. For example,
Scenario 1 I raise 5 times the BB with my Pocket Aces
-Donk calls with Ace Jack, Flop comes J 10 2 Rainbow, Donk bets a large amount, I re raise and donk shoves me all in. I call and win the pot.
Scenario 2 (same player) I raise 5 BB with Pocket Aces,
-Donk calls with 55. Flop comes 2 5 6 as you can see the donk has hit a set.
Donk bets, I reraise donk shoves, I call I lose the showdown to trips.
Scenario 3 Aces again with a large raise from me pre flop.
-Donk calls with 56o Flop comes 10 5 6 Again, I will lose the pot because the idiot has flopped 2 pair.
Scenario 4 I have Aces, large raise..
-Donk calls this time with J9o and the flop comes 10 9 2 The same betting takes place donk shoves etc I call and I win the showdown with a higher pair.
So after all this information ^ how on earth do you put some one on a hand who has no idea of the value of their holdings compared to what is out there?
Thanks