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  Poker - How to Lose $1k
 
  #36  
14-04-2008, 4:24 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicBullets
hey paw what part of WA you from i live in Kent
I live in Oak Harbor
 

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  #37  
14-04-2008, 4:44 AM
MagicBullets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paw_kit Aces
I live in Oak Harbor

wanna drive here to Kent and pick up some Cash from me then transfer me some money on Tilt?.. lol
  #38  
14-04-2008, 4:48 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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I can lend you a shovel so you can bury the evidence. Try following the advice on the thread on how to make 1K
  #39  
14-04-2008, 4:48 AM
MagicBullets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paw_kit Aces
I can lend you a shovel so you can bury the evidence. Try following the advice on the thread on how to make 1K
LOL Thanks for the heads up I Apprieciate it!
  #40  
14-04-2008, 6:20 AM
PokerVic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4aces07
Or, just get the babysitter's parents to pay you back. Seriously, playing with (and losing) someone else's money on a poker site, is just the same as stealing $1,000 in cash, imo.
Exactly. It's no different than if your online banking info was stored and she transferred $1000 to her own account. Take her to court.

Also, I wouldn't believe her story about the cash table unless the hand history was there to back it up.
  #41  
14-04-2008, 6:37 AM
paranoiabrad
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Dude, my room mate did that to me. He thinks he can play poker, but he's just an idiot.

Lost me around 700 dollars I had built up.

So he just payed my rent for a while.
  #42  
14-04-2008, 6:39 AM
K_Kahne_Fan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerVic
Also, I wouldn't believe her story about the cash table unless the hand history was there to back it up.
Good point, "Hey (friend's name here), don't you have a (poker site) account? Want some more $$?"

Also, "Yes, you can use my computer (password your profile), I will create your own profile for you to use." (If you have that option on your comp.)

This would have kept her from getting in to your profile to F' with any of your programs. I barely let me daughter use my computer since I don't want her to "accidentally" do anything.
  #43  
14-04-2008, 6:42 AM
MagicBullets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Kahne_Fan
Good point, "Hey (friend's name here), don't you have a (poker site) account? Want some more $$?"

Also, "Yes, you can use my computer (password your profile), I will create your own profile for you to use." (If you have that option on your comp.)

This would have kept her from getting in to your profile to F' with any of your programs. I barely let me daughter use my computer since I don't want her to "accidentally" do anything.

all this is correct but it's also all a moot point now since it's already been done.
  #44  
14-04-2008, 6:42 AM
SeanyJ
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I think it would be absolutely hilarious if the OP could post some of the hand histories of the girl losing all of the money, but that's just me.
  #45  
14-04-2008, 6:44 AM
MagicBullets
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanyJ
I think it would be absolutely hilarious if the OP could post some of the hand histories of the girl losing all of the money, but that's just me.
you all may find it funny but i dont find it funny in the least..

but hey you guys still got rolls to play with

i dont maybe that's why i dont find it funny.
  #46  
14-04-2008, 6:59 AM
zachvac
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This is a lesson in everything. Passwords need to be private. They should not even be written down. If they are they should be written down secretly, where you're the only one who realizes it's a password. This is true for everything as things become more computerized. When you can do most banking and stock trading on the internet the password has to remain private. I personally have separate passwords to get onto my laptop and onto poker. Whenever I leave, even for the bathroom, I close Pokerstars and I log off my account. That way someone would have to know both my passwords to do something like this. But if you're going to let other people use your computer you need to make sure the password for all your sensitive stuff (yes that includes poker if you have $1k on it) is secret and unavailable. It's simply computer security. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but you deserved it. If you're going to let someone use your computer, you have to make sure all the sensitive stuff is protected. You wouldn't let someone visit your house and then leave your box of cash laying out in the open with the key on top of it would you?
  #47  
14-04-2008, 7:04 AM
SeanyJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zachvac
I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but you deserved it.
I wouldn't go as far as to say the guy deserved to have $1000 pretty much stolen, of course he could have done things to avoid it but no one deserves to have their money just taken away like that.

Quote:
you all may find it funny but i dont find it funny in the least..

but hey you guys still got rolls to play with

i dont maybe that's why i dont find it funny.
Of course you don't find it funny now but maybe in a couple months you will, but I mean this is a poker forum and depriving us of hand histories like that would just be plain wrong!
  #48  
14-04-2008, 7:08 AM
zachvac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanyJ
I wouldn't go as far as to say the guy deserved to have $1000 pretty much stolen, of course he could have done things to avoid it but no one deserves to have their money just taken away like that.

maybe deserved was the wrong word, but if you leave your wallet open on the table and invite someone in you don't really trust, what do you expect? Just because it's on a computer is no different. The OP left their money open to someone they didn't (or shouldn't) trust, and they took it. I hope they get the money back, because it's still robbery, but it could have been prevented by practicing pretty basic computer intelligence.
  #49  
14-04-2008, 7:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicBullets
you all may find it funny but i dont find it funny in the least..

but hey you guys still got rolls to play with

i dont maybe that's why i dont find it funny.
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Originally Posted by MagicBullets
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Originally Posted by MagicBullets
LOL
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Originally Posted by MagicBullets
lol
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Originally Posted by MagicBullets
=)
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LOL
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LOL
Seems like you have been doing a lot of smiling and LOLing if you ask me.




None of these are artificial.
  #50  
14-04-2008, 7:16 AM
K_Kahne_Fan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicBullets
all this is correct but it's also all a moot point now since it's already been done.
Maybe for now, but you do have a 9yo who is only 5 years from the sitter's age and with internet as it is these days only 3-5 years from knowing what your computer is capable of. I tend to like to have a password on my profile and have my computer set so that it goes to the profile login page when the screensaver comes on. Just trying to help for future reference. Also, if you check your HH and all the $$ went mostly to 1 player... you may know who has your money now.
  #51  
14-04-2008, 7:28 AM
juiceeQ
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Well, you could redeposit with an All-Access Visa giftcard. Sorry to hear about your losses. Live and learn, eh?
  #52  
14-04-2008, 7:42 AM
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You left your 9 and 7 year olds with a 14 year old for the weekend? I have serious doubts about your judgment beyond storing your poker password on the PC. Who was actually responsible while you were gone?
  #53  
14-04-2008, 9:02 AM
fcumred
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicBullets
9yrs and 7yrs

i really just needed her to make sure they dont burn the house down
WIth the consequences of what she did whilst you were away I think I'd prefer to come back to a pile of smouldering ashes.

  #54  
14-04-2008, 9:03 AM
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I hope you repaid the bloke the $20 you owed him.....
  #55  
14-04-2008, 9:08 AM
fcumred
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Would the OP be posting on here if he'd come back and she'd trebled his money ?
  #56  
14-04-2008, 9:13 AM
flint
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At the end of the day, its just money. The story can last a lifetime

You will get your money back if you pressure her parents enough or take them to court, after all the parents are liable if the child steals something.

Its a good lesson for us all to learn, protect our accounts when there is a notable sum of money in it.
  #57  
14-04-2008, 9:24 AM
Tygran
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On the one hand I completely agree with all the points about "you should be smart about protecting your password/computer/etc"... However I think saying he's responsible or whatever is going way too far. The level of computer security you need really depends on who has physical access to it. I think not expecting your babysitter to rob you blind falls into the category of reasonable. Really is this any different than finding $1000 cash in your sock drawer and taking it home?

HOWEVER that doesn't change the fact that somebody willingly committed theft. I don't buy for a second that a 14 year old wouldn't know that they shouldn't be doing what they were doing.

Still sucks man and I feel for you. Her parents really should reimburse you for the full amount.
/and then make her earn it back. In another year or two she will be old enough to work a minimum wage job.
  #58  
14-04-2008, 9:36 AM
SeanyJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flint
At the end of the day, its just money. The story can last a lifetime

You will get your money back if you pressure her parents enough or take them to court, after all the parents are liable if the child steals something.

Its a good lesson for us all to learn, protect our accounts when there is a notable sum of money in it.
I don't think that this would really get anywhere if it went to court simply because the girl didn't actually take anything from the guy. She lost it playing poker to more than likely a bunch of different people. Of course I wouldn't stop bugging the parents for my money back but threatening them with a lawsuit wouldn't really work.
  #59  
14-04-2008, 12:02 PM
flint
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Originally Posted by SeanyJ
I don't think that this would really get anywhere if it went to court simply because the girl didn't actually take anything from the guy. She lost it playing poker to more than likely a bunch of different people. Of course I wouldn't stop bugging the parents for my money back but threatening them with a lawsuit wouldn't really work.
Isn't it technically the same as stealing $1000 from the house and going to a live casino? Obviously, that wouldn't work with a 14 year old unless she had a fake ID and looked old enough..

Basically she is commiting three crimes
-Playing with your money
-Playing with your account
-Playing under age

Why can't you sue the parents? I thought you could sue anyone for anything in the US and win if you have a good lawyer...

And yes, adults are responsible for the actions of their children.
  #60  
14-04-2008, 12:03 PM
belladonna05
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So I have to post this, since this thread has gone on for a bit. As posted earlier I have 3 girls. When they all reached 16 they didn't want to be seen with us at all. So mostly no family vacations after that. I had a very uneventful time with my 2 oldest daughters with that, but when my youngest was 16 I and my husband went for a weekend to Tennessee and left her at home. It was summer and the 17 year old who was very religious at the time was going to a huge christian rock festival in Pennsylvania, thus leaving the 16 year old home alone. Long story short we got back sunday night and my car that had been parked in the driveway was missing gas and the sideview mirror. Took some yelling to get it out of her, lol. Anyway she just had my first granddaughter not to long back. While I was holding her one day fawning over her, I stated awww just think one day she will be 16 and stealing your car. Yes you can laugh on down the road. Moral of the story is, when leaving teenager in home, lock up everything, including the spare keys.
  #61  
14-04-2008, 2:37 PM
ComplexPlaya
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Well that pretty much sux majorly. At least I lost them at the tables and can only blame me

If you want, I'm not in the US and wouldn't have a prob uploading money to wherever....so I could put them on a site from you. Of course, that depends on your level of trust to not get ripped off :P
  #62  
14-04-2008, 3:14 PM
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Post the hand histories or honestly I think this is a hoax.

Could be OPs idea of seeing if there was some way to get his money back after he tilted maybe by contacting Stars and saying a 14 year old blew it. Thats just my opinion on this..
  #63  
14-04-2008, 6:17 PM
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The thing that prevents any legal recourse is that it appears he lives in Washington State and I believe that is one of the States where online poker is frowned upon, if not completely illegal. Meaning if he mentions suing and the babysitters parents do any research at all, OP could end up in deep doo doo.
  #64  
14-04-2008, 6:31 PM
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i would hit her
  #65  
14-04-2008, 6:56 PM
4evrthe1
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That really sucks! Maybe she didn't realize it was real money. Our kids got into our poker account and promptly cleaned out all our play chips but they were only play chips, so no big deal, but it is amazing how quickly they lost them all.

Guess you'll have to hit the freerolls. $15 for 1st place on Fulltilt You can do it!! Best of luck to you. Hope you get it worked out.
  #66  
14-04-2008, 7:05 PM
switch0723
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Sounds like we could have used her in the youth vs experience
  #67  
14-04-2008, 7:07 PM
dj11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switch0723
Sounds like we could have used her in the youth vs experience
Looks like she is already playing in that!
  #68  
14-04-2008, 7:11 PM
Genso Hikki
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KingCurtis
well honestly i don't know how a 14 yr old even knew how to play and sit down and all that but i guess they can be smarter than they look.
My son is getting ready to turn 13 and he knows all about online poker. Kids these days are a lot more savvy about those kinds of things than you think.

Seriously, I have babysitters and firends and even my boyfriend who access my computer constantly. EVERYTING is locked down. Hell I even log out of Cardschat and my other message boards when I leave the PC. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't want anyone in my stuff - much less in my money.

Live and learn - but I would talk to her parents. After all, what she did was no different than if she went into your wallet and stole a thousand bucks.
  #69  
14-04-2008, 7:57 PM
Mr McCluskey
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Quote:
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Sounds like we could have used her in the youth vs experience
^^^^^^^this, she can take my place she could do no worse than I have
  #70  
14-04-2008, 8:36 PM
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