How long can you play solidly and still play at your best?

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  #1
11th October 2009, 2:25 PM
Xavier
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: NL Hold em
How long can you play solidly and still play at your best?

I played in the $11 Deep Stack at Stars last night. I came 32th out of 1800 odd and was playing for 10 hours, and it was 3am. At the end I just played poorly though and started playing too many hands,probably just out of tiredness affecting my judgement.
Does being able to concentrate longer and longer come with time?
I consistently get deep in these tournaments now, and finish inside the bubble more often than not. Problem is I tend to play much better at the start for the 1st few hours.
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  #2
11th October 2009, 3:02 PM
mattzan
 
Online Poker at: FTP and PS
Game: Holdem
Like every sport. You need to practice... Play more and more and more, you going to train your patience, your concentration, your ability. It is nice also to read some tips from the pros to not get tired soon.
  #3
11th October 2009, 3:44 PM
SPCotter
 
Poker at: FT/Devilfish
Game: NLHE
Have the turbo coffee at the ready if you expect to go deep, if it finishes at 4am, chances are you'll still get to sleep!
  #4
11th October 2009, 5:57 PM
Dam Yankee
 
Online Poker at: Players Only
Game: hold 'em
It's a double edged sword. Either your tired at the end of a 8 hr stretch, (I have had the late buzzer actually wake me up - i know, sad but true); or you have so much caffine in you that when u do have a chance to grab a few hours of sleep, your too wired! I have found there is no one to call at that hr to tell "Hey, I came in 2nd place out of 8,000 ppl" - at 4am, no one cares, hehehe
  #5
11th October 2009, 11:46 PM
rakbarak
 
Poker at: bodog
Game: holdem
If you dont need to wake up in the morning to work, think has the final table to get motivated.
  #6
11th October 2009, 11:52 PM
Ebaum
 
Online Poker at: Ultimate Bet
Game: Holdem
re: How long can you play solidly and still play at your best? poker

I've made 13 hours before, but by then the family is tired of it, I'm tired of it, and there's more chances of me going all in on 3-5o, not caring if I lose it.
Bed is a big movitator.
  #7
12th October 2009, 4:26 AM
joeaugie
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: PLO and NLHE
not sure how you can go so deep and than lose interest/get tired when it really counts.

use the breaks as a chance to clear your mind....get some caffeine...whatever it takes.

Personally, if I made it that deep in a large tournament my focus would be sharper than ever knowing a final table is a possibility.
  #8
12th October 2009, 6:05 AM
Grossberger
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
I played in the $11 Deep Stack at Stars last night. I came 32th out of 1800 odd and was playing for 10 hours, and it was 3am. At the end I just played poorly though and started playing too many hands,probably just out of tiredness affecting my judgement.
Does being able to concentrate longer and longer come with time?
I consistently get deep in these tournaments now, and finish inside the bubble more often than not. Problem is I tend to play much better at the start for the 1st few hours.
Where do you live Xavier?? because EST 10 hours is not 3am!! I played in this tournament and finished 6th I had about 6-7 CCers watching me as my AA got busted by AQs I was 2nd in chips and the chip leader busted me, anyhow I went out in 6th at 1:30am playing for 13 1/2 haours never really lost focus if anything I was more focused at the final table. I got busted but could not have played the hand any better than I did with 1 exception and that being that I push on the turn rather than the flop, because he rivered his flush and I don't believe he calls allin after turn chasing the flush.
  #9
12th October 2009, 10:19 AM
Xavier
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: NL Hold em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grossberger
Where do you live Xavier?? because EST 10 hours is not 3am!! I played in this tournament and finished 6th I had about 6-7 CCers watching me as my AA got busted by AQs I was 2nd in chips and the chip leader busted me, anyhow I went out in 6th at 1:30am playing for 13 1/2 haours never really lost focus if anything I was more focused at the final table. I got busted but could not have played the hand any better than I did with 1 exception and that being that I push on the turn rather than the flop, because he rivered his flush and I don't believe he calls allin after turn chasing the flush.
I live in England. Tournament starts at 5pm here which is not the best time because if you make the final table it will be like 8am the following morning! the deepest I've got in it I played for 14 hours and didn't reach the final table only finishing 11th.
  #10
12th October 2009, 6:59 PM
Mase31683
 
Online Poker at: Mohegan Sun
Game: NLHE 6max/HU
I think it's harder to play well the more tables you have, and online.

If I'm 6-12 tabling, I can start to feel mental fatigue after sometimes just an hour or two.

I don't know about one table, cuz I've never done that, but I know that 4 tables, I can play for at least 3 hours before feeling it.

Live however, I've played for 36 hours straight. The game's different though, so even if you begin to have play deteriorate, you probably still have a solid edge.
  #11
12th October 2009, 8:52 PM
grafkarow
 
Poker at: FTUBPSCPBO
Game: any game
I'm usually 4 tabling about 6 hrs then I'm done.

The latest I played was an Ultimatebet CC freeroll until 5:40 am - I had to get up anyway then .

I won it but what a day at work .
  #12
13th October 2009, 4:21 PM
tacchini
 
re: How long can you play solidly and still play at your best? poker

I hnow someone who plays at least 4-5 table in the same time. it s amazing how he can do that . and he plays pretty good. he can stay focus for a long time during his tournaments. u need to practice more, that s the secret.
  #13
15th October 2009, 2:03 AM
canucks921
 
Poker at: Bodog.com
Game: holdem
Depends on winning

for whatever reason my problem seems to be when I win money and have a good stack. For instance I start a cash game with $50 turn it into $150 playing good for about 4-5 hrs. Then I start gambling with the damn money and making moves I wouldn't otherwise make.
  #14
16th October 2009, 4:06 AM
Mase31683
 
Online Poker at: Mohegan Sun
Game: NLHE 6max/HU
Quote:
Originally Posted by canucks921
for whatever reason my problem seems to be when I win money and have a good stack. For instance I start a cash game with $50 turn it into $150 playing good for about 4-5 hrs. Then I start gambling with the damn money and making moves I wouldn't otherwise make.
If you notice a leak like that, you gotta plug that thing fast. If for whatever reason, having chips makes you play sub-optimally, sit out once you have that big stack.

You can open up a new table with $50, and problem's solved.
  #15
16th October 2009, 4:14 AM
GordonStr222
 
Poker at: POKER_STARS
Game: HOLD_EM
I have played for 9 hours once and cripple towards to the end... Physically and mentally I was tired... Now I like to look at how long the tourney's will be and check my availability and my state of mind... To see if I can go that long or not... It's good to know ahead of time how long the tourney last to pace yourself and mentally prepare yourself to all the way....
  #16
16th October 2009, 4:44 AM
SydTheCat
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem
I think that one of the reasons the 20 something kids are doing so well, is because they can physically and mentally last longer playing solid poker than someone of my age (40+). When I was younger, I could go all night. Now 9-10pm comes around and sleeping just seems so much more important than poker. I'm good for about 4-5 hours .
  #17
16th October 2009, 7:07 AM
JOEBOB69
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: nlh
Well i tighten up the longer i play,but i used to play 16plus hours live alot.
  #18
16th October 2009, 11:57 AM
DuaneK
 
re: How long can you play solidly and still play at your best? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by SydTheCat
I think that one of the reasons the 20 something kids are doing so well, is because they can physically and mentally last longer playing solid poker than someone of my age (40+). When I was younger, I could go all night. Now 9-10pm comes around and sleeping just seems so much more important than poker. I'm good for about 4-5 hours .
The older you get the shorter the attention span gets. At 72 mine is around 2-3 hrs, at the most.
  #19
16th October 2009, 8:02 PM
allndave
 
Poker at: fulltilt
Game: HOLDEM
i guess that is one of the reasons i prefer to play at the cash tables as opposed to tournaments,so i can walk away. i play my best for the first 3hrs after that i lose interest and the tilt factor or a total blow up can happen at any time.
  #20
16th October 2009, 9:15 PM
sasquatch01
 
Online Poker at: carbon
Game: holdem
when i start playing 4 along time my back starts to give in on me then i start playing more hands and just being a dumb player but if im just about the final table i would suck it up and keep playing
  #21
17th October 2009, 12:50 AM
StormRaven
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
If I'm that tired while playing in a mtt for a long time I will go take a 5-10 minute break - even while the game is still going. Beats staying in and making poor judgments because you're too tired.
  #22
17th October 2009, 3:25 AM
Exit141RTe1
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Depends on my mood. Some days I am good for 6+ hours of play. Others I loose interest after an hour. I have learned that if you are not interested in the long haul and commit to the 6 hour tournament, don't even bother in signing up.
 

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