How to generate most rake for rake back

I have recently signed up for a great rakeback deal at a site which I will not mention.

I am wondering, how do I generate the most rake in my play. I will say I am propping and I am getting 80-100% of rake back.

What exactly qualifies me to get rake from a hand.

Do I tighten up or loosen up?

How do I make the most money out of this deal?

Play your normal game. Rakeback is important but play the style you are comfortable with that will make you the most money.

If you want to be a rakeback pro, just 24 table and nit it up. You may lose a little or be breakeven but the rakeback will be tremendous.

Nit it up?

Play tight so that you dont lose too much when playing and the rakeback will more than make up for the loses if you are not too much of a fish.

Do I not need to see the flop to qualify to get rake back for that hand?

Depends on the site but please dont try to see more flops/ limp in more/ w/e just to generate more rake because the loses will be greater than the rakeback.

Do not change your style! Changing the way you play usually hurts your game and although that much rakeback is helpful, changing your game can and probably will cause you to lose more money than you will gain back from rakeback.

If you get a job as a prop getting 80% rake back my suggestion would be open as many tables as you can play without timing out constantly, then only play JJ+ AKs. Do you get an hourly for this prop as well? If so you would be apt to do this as many hours as possible 5-6 days a week.

I see you can take it 2 ways.. One is mass tabling and being a nit.. The other is playing less tables and stirring the action on your tables.. If you are confident in playing marginal situations.. Just depends on the type of opponents you have at the table i guess.. Play at tables with a high % to flop.

I think I know the deal you have. Nice if you don't mind playing at a start-up site. To answer your question about seeing the flop, the answer is yes. If your site adhere's to the No Flop No Drop rule then you must either see a flop or in the case of stud games, see 4th street for the rake to come into play.

As far as the rake structure is concerned that varies from site to site, but typically the highest rake is generated from the lowest stakes which is why many knowledgable players believe that the low limits are unwinnable. However, if you have a great rakeback deal that changes everthing. Not only do the low stake games become winnable, the combination of weak play and high rakes might be very profitable. Using Full Tilt as an example you can see below how insane the rake structure is.

At the lowest limits, say .01/.02 No Limit the rake is capped at a whopping 1000x the Big Blind or say, 100% of a complete buy-in. At limits above .25/.50 the rake is capped at $3 Period. Which means if your playing .25/.50 it's only 6x the Big Blind or 60% of a buy in and if your playing 10/20 its capped at only 15% of the Big Blind or a mere 1.5% of a bu-in. So it's easy to see that the higher the limit, the less impact rake has on your winrate and the lower the limit, the greater impact, perhaps to the point where you NEED to run good to see a profit.

All that said, it seems to me that the best way to take advantage of a high rakeback is to Multi Table the lowest limits and as marginal said, totally Nit It Up.

No Limit/Pot Limit


$0.01/$0.02, $0.02/$0.05, $0.05/$0.10

# of PlayersRakePerMaxMax w/RIT2$0.01$0.15 in Pot$0.50$13-4$0.01$0.15 in Pot$1$1.505-9$0.01$0.15 in Pot$2$3

$0.10/$0.25

# of PlayersRakePerMaxMax w/RIT2$0.01$0.20 in Pot$0.50$13$0.01$0.20 in Pot$1$1.504$0.01$0.20 in Pot$2$35-9$0.01$0.20 in Pot$3$4

$0.25/$0.50+

# of PlayersRakePerMaxMax w/RIT2$0.05$1 in Pot$0.50$13$0.05$1 in Pot$1$1.504$0.05$1 in Pot$2$35-9$0.05$1 in Pot$3$4

The contributed rake calculation method you earn rakeback depending on how much money you actually put into the pots. If for example a pot reaches $25 and you put in $5 of that money then $5 divided by $25, ie 20% of the rake which the room took from that pot "belongs" to you.Depends on the site but please dont try to see more flops/ limp in more/ w/e just to generate more rake because the loses will be greater than the rakeback.

Well I started play at the .50/$1 NL tables on Wednesday morning, since then my bankroll is up about $30 from the $100 deposit I made Wednesday. Keep in mind im looking to see what happens before I make a real deposit of $1500 or so.

The tables I have been playing at are nuts. I play 2 or 3 at a time and everyones buying in $30-$50 and there is a guy knocked out after losing an all in every 4 or 5 hands. Average pots have been over $20 and its about 40% seeing the flop.

Ive logged about 4 hours a day on Wed, Thurs Fri and now im playing late into the morning of Saturday. We will see what happens on Monday when its deposited into my account.

I will keep you guys posted as to how much I make and if these deals are what they say they are.

Good advice. Do not consider the rakeback (or bonusses) when playing -- just play your best game.

This is so true. Sometimes I get caught up with the Ironman Challenge that I'm not playing my best game.

FT is the only site I know of that uses the dealt rake system, so you don't need to see a flop, only be dealt into the hand, and rake is distributed evenly among everyone who gets cards. Most other sites IIRC use contributed rake, as someone pointed out your RB is relative to how much you contributed to the pot. There are a few other rake systems too that I don't recall off the top of my head.

If you intend to survive long enough to get any rakeback, please please please understand proper BRM. $100 deposit and playing 100NL? That's fine if you're the type who drops $100 into a slot machine just for fun, because that's essentially what you're doing. But for sustained play with the intent of making money, $100 rolls you for maybe 5NL (at only 20 buy-ins). Most will tell you that $1500 is not sufficient for 100NL either, as it's only 15 buy-ins. It's one thing to take a shot but if you lose more than a couple buy-ins, it's time to move down in stakes otherwise you're risking your entire BR. Swings can be brutal -- I went on a ~35BI downswing once playing just 50NL, that was like $1700 -- so you must have the roll to withstand the variance.

No offense intended, but the sense I get from your posts here tell me you're fairly new to poker, at least online poker. You seem to not yet grasp the lingo, BRM, or how to play for rakeback. Nothing wrong with that, we were all beginners, but you seem to be putting the cart before the horse with your plans to make money from RB. I think you really need to get a handle on these fundamentals before you can expect to succeed here.

Oh, and as other said, don't let RB or a bonus affect your game. Part of the reason for my 35BI downswing at 50NL was the fact I was whoring rakeback while also going for the "Iron" Ironman level. I was forcing myself to play when I didn't feel like it, for longer sessions and more tables, and it just wore me out. I did get Iron, and made a ton of rakeback 9-12 tabling, but it wasn't nearly enough to show any profit for the month.

Best of luck to ya, though.

Okay so Monday has come and like expected I got a deposit in my account.

I played 796 hands.

First hand was on June 24th (Thursday) at 1:26pm CST.
Last hand was on June 27th (Sunday) at 10:58pm CST.

I have played one table at a time super tight. I only played 20 hands multi tabling.

I was given $81.84 in rakeback, nearly my starting bankroll. I profited $12.00 in the time I played, keep in mind I was playing to break even.

My bankroll is at $192.64

So I am getting higher then a dime a hand I play in rakeback playing at single table.

It seems quite worth it and I plan to carry on and see what I can do with that I have here. I realized im staked poorly but I was simply playing to see if this was for real.

If I keep the average of a dime per hand going...Single table 500 hands is about 5 hours of play.

At 35 Hours a Week (5 Hours a day) Single tabling..$350 a table.

Play 2 or 3 and it turns into a decent amount of money per week.

Lets see what happens.

What poker site do you play at? I would think that it's probably not Full Tilt because I've never seen them give that kind of rakeback, but if it is then you should definatley multi-table Rush poker. Since, it's more than likely not there I would say play as many tables as you are capable of playing and play really tight. Don't over do it though and try to play more tables then you can handle because your going to end up missing your big hands. Also, stay with BRM don't go crazy and say well since my rakeback is so, high I can afford to play higher stakes then your BR can handle. Remeber most rake takes only about 10% so, if you take a bunch of huge losses your rakeback isn't going to completley save you.

Bankroll is up to $325 after another 250 hands at $.50/$1.00.

I won't mention the website for sake of CC and their sponsors.

I find at this website top pair is so over valued and people are literally willing to go broke with it each and every hand. Sitting and waiting you can trap and check raise big enough pots to make up for being blinded by folding.

Hey dmorris68, Chernoff might not be allowed to play at a lower stakes table that is more suited to his bankroll. The company might require him to play at a stakes table higher than he would normally play. He mentioned he would be willing to put up a few more dollars in addition to his $100 deposit, if there was some light at the end of the tunnel.

You got it. .50/$1 NL is the lowest stakes you can play to be eligible.

I was simply testing it out to see if it was what it was, turns out to be so which means I will pursue this further and keep you guys updated.

Does a 7 Card Stud player receive more rakeback bonuses because of the Antes & Bring In's?