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jrctherake
Rising Star
Silver Level
First off I'm sorry for the long read. Forgive me if you don't like to read but I need some answers. Thanks for your time and much needed advice.
I'm not an experienced poker player compared to most of you by a long shot but I played for little over a year at a local lodge until the game got shut down.
We played one night a week and our games was either $2 / $4 or $5 / $10 no limit holdem depending on which players showed. Our buyin was $200 for 2/4 and $500 for 5/10 game with no rebuy option.
We always played until there was just two people left at table and then those two had the option to chop if their stacks was close or play till one had all. The rules never changed.
I learned a lot from those guys and one lady that played with us ever now and then. But, it seems that almost none of what I learned during that year or so and over $14,000.00 in loses would prepare me for online poker.
I've been playing online now for little over a month and I got to say that there is night and day difference between online and in real life.
Now, for my questions:
1.
Why is it that 50% of table will have pairs very often online when in real life games you may see 4 of 9 players with pairs at same time once a month maybe not that often and thats if the games lasted from hours to all night. Especially when the 4 pairs are AA, KK, QQ, 1010.......I've seen this online so many times its unreal and I've only been playing there a month. I've never seen or heard of this happening in real life games even when talking to people that have played 50 years or longer.
Is it just me or does everyone online have same experience?
2.
I saw more suckouts on my first night of online playing than I have the entire year of in life playing.
Again, is it just me or is this the way it is online?
3.
This question troubles me. It's about the one thing any true-blue poker player hates with a passion.........yes, thats right, cheating.
I've noticed three certain players that play at same table every time. If you see one of them you will see the other two or neither of the three.
My experience with them has been this: when one folds the other two fold. When one pushes the other two push and they all ways sit next to each other.....no seats inbetween them.
For example......this happened last night on 200/400 NL holdem:
Hole cards came out......8 of 9 players just called blinds no rasies.......flop came.......Ad,Kd,10d........First of the three in question checked..........then sitting next to him.......the second of the three checked........then sitting in very next seat the third of the three bet 2k........at that point all but 2 players (not counting the 3 in question) folded and then the first of the three called.........the second of the three raised min...........the third one just called..............the 2 players that stayed in just called..........lol.......then the first of the three reraised the min.............second one reraised...........third one called............one of the 2 that was in folded but one stayed..........now there are 4 players in hand............the three in question and one other....................the 3 in question kept that round and round raising and reraising the min each until they had the one honest player all in.........turn was 6d..........river was Qc............all cards turned over .............LOL.........one of the cheater (to me) had Qd/Jh (flopped str8 and nut draw)......again........LOL........the other 2 cheaters (i think) had 2/8 off.......and 3/7 off........the one honest player had a str8 but was beat out by the flush.
Now, you tell me does anyone in their right mind unless involved in cheating call, raise and reraise after a flop of Ad/Kd/10d until all in with hole cards of 2/8 off and 3/7 off?
I'm pretty sure that all three hands are being played by same person cause they act to fast for them to be on phone or texting between three people.........just no way they could do it that fast.
Now my question............is there any way I can see if a player has more than one email account or if they have more than one account at a particular poker site or anything about their IP address? If so, please explain on how to do this.
I've googles things such as "how to catch an online poker cheat" and lots of other terms but all I get is a bunch of sites wanting to sell things a honest poker player would not purchase or take even if it was free.
Thanks for any and all advice,
Rake
I'm not an experienced poker player compared to most of you by a long shot but I played for little over a year at a local lodge until the game got shut down.
We played one night a week and our games was either $2 / $4 or $5 / $10 no limit holdem depending on which players showed. Our buyin was $200 for 2/4 and $500 for 5/10 game with no rebuy option.
We always played until there was just two people left at table and then those two had the option to chop if their stacks was close or play till one had all. The rules never changed.
I learned a lot from those guys and one lady that played with us ever now and then. But, it seems that almost none of what I learned during that year or so and over $14,000.00 in loses would prepare me for online poker.
I've been playing online now for little over a month and I got to say that there is night and day difference between online and in real life.
Now, for my questions:
1.
Why is it that 50% of table will have pairs very often online when in real life games you may see 4 of 9 players with pairs at same time once a month maybe not that often and thats if the games lasted from hours to all night. Especially when the 4 pairs are AA, KK, QQ, 1010.......I've seen this online so many times its unreal and I've only been playing there a month. I've never seen or heard of this happening in real life games even when talking to people that have played 50 years or longer.
Is it just me or does everyone online have same experience?
2.
I saw more suckouts on my first night of online playing than I have the entire year of in life playing.
Again, is it just me or is this the way it is online?
3.
This question troubles me. It's about the one thing any true-blue poker player hates with a passion.........yes, thats right, cheating.
I've noticed three certain players that play at same table every time. If you see one of them you will see the other two or neither of the three.
My experience with them has been this: when one folds the other two fold. When one pushes the other two push and they all ways sit next to each other.....no seats inbetween them.
For example......this happened last night on 200/400 NL holdem:
Hole cards came out......8 of 9 players just called blinds no rasies.......flop came.......Ad,Kd,10d........First of the three in question checked..........then sitting next to him.......the second of the three checked........then sitting in very next seat the third of the three bet 2k........at that point all but 2 players (not counting the 3 in question) folded and then the first of the three called.........the second of the three raised min...........the third one just called..............the 2 players that stayed in just called..........lol.......then the first of the three reraised the min.............second one reraised...........third one called............one of the 2 that was in folded but one stayed..........now there are 4 players in hand............the three in question and one other....................the 3 in question kept that round and round raising and reraising the min each until they had the one honest player all in.........turn was 6d..........river was Qc............all cards turned over .............LOL.........one of the cheater (to me) had Qd/Jh (flopped str8 and nut draw)......again........LOL........the other 2 cheaters (i think) had 2/8 off.......and 3/7 off........the one honest player had a str8 but was beat out by the flush.
Now, you tell me does anyone in their right mind unless involved in cheating call, raise and reraise after a flop of Ad/Kd/10d until all in with hole cards of 2/8 off and 3/7 off?
I'm pretty sure that all three hands are being played by same person cause they act to fast for them to be on phone or texting between three people.........just no way they could do it that fast.
Now my question............is there any way I can see if a player has more than one email account or if they have more than one account at a particular poker site or anything about their IP address? If so, please explain on how to do this.
I've googles things such as "how to catch an online poker cheat" and lots of other terms but all I get is a bunch of sites wanting to sell things a honest poker player would not purchase or take even if it was free.
Thanks for any and all advice,
Rake