Hands per hour online vs Live

Say I average 65 hands online an hour in Tourney play. Would anybody know what kind of average hands per hour if I were to play live?

In a casino with a dealer? Usually between 30 and 50. At home with your buddies on a friday night with drinking involved? We tend to average about 10.

LOL.....Thanks,Is it Frank? or Mr. Paulson

we call him fp

It's Fredrik, actually. But although Mr Paulsson works well, most people tend to refer to me - like PQ said - as FP.

you really think you can get 30 hands per hour live?
I don't. I think 20 would be pretty healthy and think it might average 12-15. I have heard a 5-1 ratio but cant remember where I heard it.

An average of two minutes per hand? Yeah, that seems about right to me. Every hand - on average - taking five minutes seems unreasonable. When I'm playing with friends, we make about one round in 15 minutes, meaning that we play 7 hands (there's seven of us) in that time frame. But then we don't have a dealer, so shuffling and dealing takes more time than it would in a casino.

I play £22 self dealt 10 person SnGs in a casino regularly and pay attention to this.

We usually get the first orbit done in about 20 minutes (blinds go up every fifteen). So 30 hands in an hour isn't impossible. Changes as blinds go up and players go down and the average hand takes less time.

Of course most people are pretty well drilled at shuffling and dealing so it doesn't take too long. Add a few more live nebs and the pace can slow a bit.

thats about right!

Ah, I just noticed that the OP was referring perhaps specifically to tournament play. That tends to be slower, I suppose, given that people like to think things through a bit more carefully.

I dunno, I seem to get about 30 hands in an hour live. It seems to be triple as fast online.

it depends on the dealer, the game and the players .... in Holdem 10 players about 30-35 i would guess but we have bad dealers here in germany lol

Last night, IN a 54 player online tourney, I got in 103 hands in about 1:15. I was the last one standing. That puts it in the 3.5/1 range online/live. Assumping 2 minutes per live hand. Not an assumption I share BTW.

On TV they maybe show 10 hands per hour, TV hours are really about 40 minutes (commercials et all). That makes it closer to 4 minutes per hand, which is about where I would guess. Poker after Dark has tables full of players familiar to not only us, but to each other. Seldom does a hand stretch the clock, and they MIGHT get close to that 30 hands per hour.

FP, when you and friends play are you all seriousness with no distractions, and are you all familiar with all your styles? Seems to me that would shave a good bit of time off per hand.

I would guess somewhere this issue has been given a pretty good workout. If we can't find that info, perhaps we could start a thread and compile our stats there.

I don't have time to count actual h/p/h because sometimes i'm on a lot of tbls & it's really hard to do that. All i know is that i get in a HUGE amount in because i can play up to 11 tbls @ a time. I'd be really talented if i could count the h/p/h @ the same time...it'd be a record or some chit . Definetely though you get more h/p/h online than live @ a tbl w/ the same amount of people @ it & in the same structure game.