FTP'S and high stakes players....

#1 3rd May 2009, 2:39 PM

Ok so I keep up with alot of high stakes action online,and was just wondering if anyone knew how many ftp's someone like tom dwan or phil galfond are earning an hour.
Also do the pros get ftps,wouldnt see a reason for them to but who knows.
Also what do they do with the ftps,they have to have a ton.

#2 3rd May 2009, 5:16 PM

Since neither Dwan or Galfond are red named FT pros, I would assume they would get FTPs at whatever the normal FTP rate is for the rake they pay. As for guys like Hansen and Ivey, who knows. Obv it's not like they need them, but maybe they get them anyway. Maybe they use them to buy a new hat or jersey. lol

Also, I doubt considering how much money Dwan and Galfond make that they even really care about points.

#3 3rd May 2009, 5:26 PM

Quote:

Also, I doubt considering how much money Dwan and Galfond make that they even really care about points.
__________________

Yeah I totally agree with you,but I was just curious what they would get if they did get them.

#4 3rd May 2009, 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by left52side

Yeah I totally agree with you,but I was just curious what they would get if they did get them.

they could be one of the few that can get a custom avatar and not be red names! lol
I bet they have an insane amount of ftp's!!

#5 3rd May 2009, 7:41 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think Dwan et al pay rake.

#6 3rd May 2009, 8:04 PM

umm they pay rake.

#7 3rd May 2009, 8:05 PM

thats a interesting question. i would luv 2 know the answer to that. also i was wondering when they play online they dont have a custom avitar but they must have enough to get a custom one.....

#8 3rd May 2009, 10:44 PM

Well with the rake cap they don't pay much more than midstakes players do, meaning they don't get many more FTP points. I'd be willing to bet on an hourly basis I get more FTP points than people like durrrr, although unfortunately that means I'm also paying more rake for a much much much much lower hourly rate than them lol.

#9 3rd May 2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

Well with the rake cap they don't pay much more than midstakes players do, meaning they don't get many more FTP points. I'd be willing to bet on an hourly basis I get more FTP points than people like durrrr, although unfortunately that means I'm also paying more rake for a much much much much lower hourly rate than them lol.

or in the case of gus, youre making more than he is

#10 3rd May 2009, 10:54 PM

Obviously the Red Pro's pay a rake, but they get 100% of their rake back, so in theory they don't pay the rake. At their level of play they only pay .50 hand for rake, so they are earning 3.5 FTP's a hand (at 7 FTP for each dollar).

#11 4th May 2009, 1:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crummy

Obviously the Red Pro's pay a rake, but they get 100% of their rake back, so in theory they don't pay the rake. At their level of play they only pay .50 hand for rake, so they are earning 3.5 FTP's a hand (at 7 FTP for each dollar).

And this is only each flop seen right? So if someone takes it down preflop with a raise or 3-bet or w/e no FTP's but also no rake paid I believe.

#12 4th May 2009, 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monoxide

umm they pay rake.

Do you know this for a fact?

It's not much, but I assume he doesn't pay rake because he doesn't have that big ugly line in his pokertableratings graphs. The rake paid stat on him is less than 1%, so he probably paid rake until some agreement was made.

I assume FTP encourages the nosebleeders to play on their site so cutting their rake would be a bare minimum.

#13 4th May 2009, 1:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goborage

Do you know this for a fact?

It's not much, but I assume he doesn't pay rake because he doesn't have that big ugly line in his pokertableratings graphs. The rake paid stat on him is less than 1%, so he probably paid rake until some agreement was made.

no, it's just that with the capping of rake, it becomes absolutely negligible at high enough stakes.

you don't even need to play nosebleeds to feel that effect. I pay about twice less rake (expressed in BB/100) at 200nl than I did at 50nl.

Similar Threads for: FTP'S and high stakes players.... > Texas Hold'em Poker
Thread	Replies	Last Post	Forum	Thread Starter
'Black Friday' and associated fallout megathread	2512	22nd May 2012 6:30 AM	General Poker	xdeuceswild81xx
FTP On Demand?	43	22nd December 2010 7:29 PM	Poker Rooms	HomeBrewer

Play Texas Hold'em Online Poker \| FTP'S and high stakes players....
BetOnline Poker is a top online poker site accepting all US players with an INSTANT cash bonus of up to $900 FREE. It also has a casino and sports betting available.	PokerStars is one of the best places to play poker online. Use PokerStars marketing code CCHAT for a $600 bonus. Note: No US Players Accepted.