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Poker - Is it forbid to say that I have AA in the chat when I is allin?
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Is it forbid to say that I have AA in the chat when I is allin?
I m woundering if any one now if one player goes all in before the flop, and Im next and have AA or someting good, and I dont wont more peopel in the pott, can I say that I have AA in the chat, so that no more whill call me?
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#2
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1. Yes that is illegal
2. Why the hell wouldn't you want people calling you? You have the best hand in poker and the more calling the better. But you cannot give the players to act after you the unfair advantage of knowing you have AA when the players before you didn't have that information. In fact I believe you can only talk about your hand when it's heads up between you and one other opponent. |
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#3
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NO!
All rules that I have seen regarding playing poker state that you CAN NOT tell others what you have. You CAN lie, but if you tell folks you have AA then you better not have AA.BTW, what makes you think that your AA will scare everyone out? They shouldn't believe you first of all and there are hands that may stay in and make you MORE MONEY if you do win. I see some others have replied while I was writing this. Zachvac put it much more succinctly than I did. ![]() |
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#4
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You should check the rules of your poker room of choice. Generally, it's not acceptable to talk about your hand in most cases, even if you don't "tell the truth".
Some sites allow you to talk about your hand while heads-up playing cash games, but not during tournaments. (Pokerstars comes to mind as an example of this.) |
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#5
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Some sites have their own rules regarding table talk. For instance, here's Poker Stars:
Poker Room Policies - Cardroom Rules at PokerStars Specifically... In both cash games and tournaments, players who have folded during a hand may not discuss the cards that they folded. This provides unfair information to players still in the hand. In cash games only, players still in a hand may chat about what cards they claim to hold. This is "coffee-housing," which is common in poker. However, players (in the hand or not) may not coach or otherwise suggest how another player should play his hand. For example, it is okay to say "You should call; I'm bluffing." It is not okay to say, "You should call; he's bluffing." In both cash games and tournaments, if there are more than two players left in a pot, players (in the hand or not) may not chat anything that might reasonably be interpreted as affecting the play of the hand. For instance, suppose players A, B, and C are in a hand. A bets, and B is next to act. C may not chat, "I'm going to fold" (whether he intends to fold or not). |
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lol
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#7
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On pokerstars you can't chat anyway if there is a player that is allin.
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Doh'
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Sorry about my uniformed opinion. I have obviously not been around enough. Does anyone know what the rules are for the WSOP games? That may be where I heard that you aren't supposed to tell the truth about your hand. |
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Players are obligated to protect the other players in the tournament at all times. Therefore, whether in a hand or not, players may not a.) disclose contents of live or folded hands, b.) advise or criticize play before the action is completed or c.) read a hand that hasn’t been tabled. The one-player-to-a-hand rule will be enforced. |
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I recenty told the table "I have a royal flush draw, should I call, raise, fold or go all in" everybody laughed, but nobody critizized me when I went all in and a I hit the flush on the river. I did have one caller by the way who either didn't believe, me or he liked his/her chances (I don't remember what they had).
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Depends, some sites like Full Tilt you can't chat while someone is all in...
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thats some sick grammar you got there hahahah |
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And more importntly....It's really bad poker ettiquate to inform anyone at the table what u do have or did have. It sure would tick me off if someone said they thru a card and someone i was settig up neede that card tomake his hand and folded!!!! wouldn't you??? get the point?
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I'm pretty sure heads up this is false. But other than that this is right.
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Your swedish you have a natural advantage with AA. By all means get more people in the pot with you!
If you want to tell everyone at the table you have aces, raise a big amount/go all in. Thats about the only way to do it. |
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It is definitely against ettiquette if not the rules to disclose your hole cards. As poker is a game of incomplete information every extra piece of info can give someone an advantage. For example if you have AA and I have AK, I now know that 2 of my outs are removed.
The best thing to do in that situation is to make a significant pre-flop raise to drive players out, or at least make it expensive for them to stick around. A significant raise will reduce their pot odds and make calling a mistake. That way you will either take it down there or come into the flop with a nice sized pot with the best of it. |
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'the more calling the better'? The more that call, the less odds you have of winning the hand. The only time you have the best odds is when you can isolate the hand to a heads-up. |
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Zach-
I second what nevadanick says-pocket aces against a rando hand wins 85.5% of the time, against 4 rando hands it wins 55.8% of the time. If you're going to go all in with it you don't want a lot of people in with you. Numbers courtesy of Phil Gordon. |
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"I second what nevadanick says-pocket aces against a rando hand wins 85.5% of the time, against 4 rando hands it wins 55.8% of the time. If you're going to go all in with it you don't want a lot of people in with you. Numbers courtesy of Phil Gordon."
85.5% win 100 = average return of plus 85.5 15.5% lose 100 = average returrn of -15.5 Expected value of situation = +70 55.8% chance to win 400 = +223.20 44.2% chance to lose 100 = -44.20 Expected value of situation = +179 So if this is a tournament, I guess you'd have to decide if an expected value if 1.79 times your chips stack is worth a 44% chance of busting out. Most situations, it is. If this is a cash game, and you don't want more callers, you just hate money. |
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90% of the time unless your at some really strict places your allowed to "say" what you have as long as your in the hand. If your not in the hand you can not "say" what you had even if your lying. You can't coach anyone but you can definitely say you have AA and its up to them to believe you or not. Most places this isn't considered bad etiquette its just part of the game (like slow rolling).
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Worse still is slowrolling, IMO. It shouldn't be part of the game. It's horrible etiquette and if you do it you deserve to have your ass kicked. |
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Maybe you're right Ken. I sure hope so. We used to have a guy who thought it was funny to do the old "all I have is an ace ... and another ace" gag. He did it twice and he hasn't been back to our game since. Seems we've lost his number to invite him.
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But as mentioned above, slowrolling != slowplaying. Slowplaying is during the hand and a perfectly acceptable deceptive maneuver. Slowrolling is when the action is over and there's no reason to trick the other person but you make him think you have a worse hand than you have. |
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You're right Zach I don't know that I've ever seen that online (thank God). I still have to give several guys in our home game hell just to get them to show BOTH hole cards at SD. So often they don't want to show their ace rag hands and hope just showing the ace will do. That crap don't cut it. Show 'em both if you want to take the chips. If you're embarrassed to show ace rag, throw it away preflop.
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