For experienced players: For every 10 games, how many do you win?

Hello Guys!

I know this is a weird question, But I wonder if what is happening to me is a signal that I am getting better or it is just "odds".

I have being playing very atcively since August 2008. I play only SnGs.

I have being keeping a record of my games and I win (1st place) about 4 for every 10 games I play. About 4 other games, I finished within the last 3 players. The other 2 remaining, I loose in the last place, or almost in the last.

So, it would be something like this:

From 10 games I:

- 4 Win (1st place)
- 4 End in 2nd or 3rd place
- 2 Lose very badly (last place or almost)

This has being keeping like these from almost 2 months ago.

What do you think? Is this a signal of something?

cheers!

Chewie.

80% in the money seems way too high, or maybe I'm just rubbish at sngs .

how many games are you talking about? I would think this is a small sample and you're running hot but I doubt it's something that you could keep up for long. There are a bunch of SnG guys on here who'll have a better idea but I think this is probably just a hot streak

A 40% winrate at SNG's is insanely high - I think that a 40 - 45% ITM winrate is considered good, 80% borders on absurd. Your ROI must be skyhigh.

This is likely an extremely hot run over a small sample. Check out your stats on one of the tracking sites and compare to other players.

What buy-ins are you playing at ?

I am playing $2.5 on Pacific Poker

If you can keep this up you'll make tons of money but my guess is this is just a good run and youll go down a bit. Play a few more weeks and then tell us what it looks like I think you'll have a better Idea then.

LOL, those were the stats I had at playmoney. Are these 9 player sngos? Must be small sample or you should have won enough money to move up a few levels with 150% ROI...unless these are 6 player sngos, then its very good and possibly sustainable (at the lowest level)

winning 4 out of 10 SNGs is ridiculously ridiculous, esp. since ur saying you finish 2nd or 3rd in 4 out of 10 SNGs as well. pretty much, you're the best SNG player alive if these are really your stats over a decent sample size.

I'm sorry. I don't believe you.

This must be over like 5 games or you are running insanely hot. It's actually impossible to sustain if you experience normal variance.

Best SNG player I've ever heard of. I want to purchase some SNG training videos from you sir!!

My SNG cash win percentage is around 45%, there not alway's 1st or 2nd. I normally place 4th(average) in the 45 ppl SNG's on pokerstars. 80% is great specially when you play in 1st or 2nd on each one.

How many people register in the SNG's that you play?

Itm for SnG's is 34% I think that is ok. And i don't believe you either.

u having some good luck i guess lol

i usaly win 3/4 out of 10 sngs

in big torneys i usaly make it to atleast the money like 40/50% overall

but thats a differnt story atm tho having a spot of bad luck keep getting bad beats argggg

I play mostly 6 player SnG's, and I win maybe 2 and finish ITM in another 2. Other times I make some bad plays or I get bad-beated out, like yesterday. Sixes beat my Queens, and then the guy hits a straight on the river to knock me out.

Top SNG players usually average around 35% ITM. In large MTT's top players usually average around 15% ITM. Anything much higher, I would have a difficult time believing. If you have played less than 1,000 SnG's or MTT than a super high ITM is variance working in your favor.

Yep, very, very lucky if those are your overall stats for more than a few rounds of record keeping. I usually win 2/3 games of out ten, and finish ITM about 40% of the time.
80% ITM is ridiculously good . . . that's not normal . . . not even close.

I don't know what's more ludicrous

-a SNG'er with an 80% success rate at 9 player SNGs

-or a player with a ITM of 45% on big MTTs.......

At any rate. Your success is great, but how many SNGs is that?

If Jerry Yang keeps it up, he'll win five in ten WSOP main events. sustainable imo.

lawl you made me think of

Colonel Sandurz: Prepare ship for light speed.
Dark Helmet: No, no, no, light speed is too slow.
Colonel Sandurz: Light speed, too slow?
Dark Helmet: Yes, we're gonna have to go right to ludicrous speed.

yea i finish ITM about 7000% of the time, so i dunno

guys, Guys!

Wait!....I said in my original post I started on August 2008, so I already declared I am a Newbie and I am here to learn from people better than me.

These stats has been from about 2 months ago until today.

Yes, I have thought this is a lucky wave. I am not pretending to declare myself "the best SnG player". I didn't ask this question to sound egocentric.

I am asking because I am still very new to this game. That's it.

Now I know the normal rate would be be ITM about 35/40% of the time.

That's it.

Thank you guys for your comments.

Cheers!

Chewie.

I'll chime in and say your just on a heater as I had been in this thread at one time >>> http://www.cardschat.com/f46/crushin...heater-146451/ (http://www.cardschat.com/f46/crushing-sngs-just-heater-146451/)

ive never done worse then 10 outta 10 wins

this is over a 14574575345 game sample size so ya i iz a pro

Just a ? I was aware. Just a little badgering is all Best of luck with all future SNGs mate

Actually, on the average out of 10 games I usually win 15 of them.

It's true, no lie.

O.k Guys...

Today I Installed PokerTracker 3, and I want to show you What I as talking about in my origginal post:



What do you think? Any advice?

Cheers!

I win 11 out of 10 97% of the time. True story.

What does that mean?

Seems like a heater, enjoy it while it lasts. I read something once that said you need about a 1000 games to really know what your true Roi would be. Best of Luck.

That's a nice run you are having. It's kinda hard to believe, but, hey, it could happen. Enjoy it while it lasts.

I tend to run about 35-50% ITM in 9 person sngs. It's harder to track now that OPR doesn not include SNGs anymore. I have done better for brief periods, and worse at times. Times like now, actually. It's best not to get too cocky.

For SNGS,which I havent played on a regular basis in a while,seemed to finsh ITM on average of around 60% at the 5.00 level.
For my MTT I generally make ITMaorund 12 to 15% of the time.
Which I think is about average.
Now of course there are the all mighty swings of nolimit play that are not accounted for both good and bad.
But just as an average them are my numbers.

I think you're stats posted look great and you are ready to move up to the next level and see if you can sustain. Good Luck!

Only 431 hands? Definitely a short-term heater across an extremely small sample, so small as to be statistically insignificant. I often play that many hands in one session, easily. When you have about 25x that number of hands, then you might get some meaningful info from them . Don't get too caught up in it, as it won't be sustainable unless you just happen to be the latest poker prodigy that started winning from Day One and never let up.

It is WAY to early for you to be concerned about your stats.
Play about 10k worth of hands and then look at them.

I would guess my ITM percentage for single SnG's is about 10-15% and that's over the last 3 years.

o.k guys.

That is what I wanted to know.

I just wonder, How people who play SnG make money if they are ITM only 10/15% of the time?