EVEREST STRATEGY!

#1 3rd March 2009, 3:56 AM

Helo poker sharks...I played for a while at Everest and the minimum buy in for .25/.50 NL is $5. While playing I noticed several players opting for the minimum $5 and just wait for decent hole cards and move all in...they wud paly 4 5 tables at the time just doing this!!! I think that it pays of in the long run!! Anyone....thoughts on this simple strategy with minimum risk!!!

#2 3rd March 2009, 7:42 AM

Probably profitable. Most certainly gets you to burn in hell. Shortstackers are the scum of the poker world. I personally advocate their castration so that at least they don't reproduce and maybe we won't see them in the next generation, in the off chance this perversion has a genetic origin.

And i certainly won't play at a room that has 10bb minimum buy-in at cash games.

#3 3rd March 2009, 12:37 PM

Only really works if you hit and run, otherwise when you've doubled up you end up with an awkward stack size for three-bet shoving before the flop.

And I feel much the same way about hit-runners as Belgo does about short stackers

FWIW, it's a fairly easy strategy to combat too, provided the short stacker stays at the table long enough:

Step 1: Work out the rough range that it's profitable to call them with (some will do it with any pair / AJ+, whereas some will do it with JTs)

Step 2: *shrug*

Step 3: Profit

#4 3rd March 2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OzExorcist

FWIW, it's a fairly easy strategy to combat too, provided the short stacker stays at the table long enough

Actually it's not. You can make sure they don't profit against you using nash equilibrium calling and shoving ranges against them, but you can't profit from them if they play decently, so they end up cutting on your winning rate anyway.

fwiw, the 2+2 PS regs are trying to fight back against shortstackers by creating exclusively 50bb min tables and by joining then sitting out at SS-infested normal tables to force them to play each other, which ends up destroying the tables when they all leave. It seems to be working for the higher stakes at least.

#5 3rd March 2009, 11:02 PM

Death to the short stackers

#6 4th March 2009, 12:41 PM

oh god short stack stratergy did my head in.
Yes it can be profitable & u've got to have patience.
But the more bigger stacks n better players will look u up n call u with crap and beat ya. Spesh when ur the SSS raising with AK,

Flop comes A58. He checks, u shove, he calls with A5. HAHA!

It's fun to beat the SSS with crap cards as u know they will b playing strong cards. But it's hard jus like most things in the poker world.

But i aggree with Belgo. it's far better to join a table that has 50BB min.

I dont understand y ppl play SSS in short handed games too. They jus lookin for turbo power poker?

#7 4th March 2009, 12:57 PM

On some of the I-Poker tables some of the regs are doing it as well, even as low as nl$50. Last night I sat at a table with 6 shortstackers and 4 reg's (including myself) sitting out. I thought it was fantastic

But yea, shortstackers are total scum.

#8 4th March 2009, 2:04 PM

The first poker civil war....I am also with everyone else on this, we really nead to get the word to the lower stakes about the sitting out deal.

#9 5th March 2009, 10:49 PM

I thought shortstackers were there just to keep the seats warm for regular players. I see guys do it all night, sit at a table and put $100 on a 1/2 NL table in Atlantic City. 20 minutes later they re-buy, then half an hour later they re-buy again. What kills me is they treat their stack like its a tournament. By the time it goes under $50 they push with any ace or any decent pair. I hope they never go away.

#10 5th March 2009, 11:23 PM

Oh dear, not the old "short-stackers are evil" thing again. So much emotion over such a little thing.

Two simple tactics make it very difficult for them to profit:

Raise their blind and deny them a free card any time you are in late position with an above average hand.

Never give them action when they go all-in, unless you have a monster yourself.

It is really that simple. No thanks are necessary.

#11 6th March 2009, 4:59 PM

so you guys only like playing against other players who play "by the rules"
that you like? short stackers make things tougher for you?

just play the deep stack tables then..... sitting out and hogging a spot to kill a table or to get short stacks to leave is a greater crime.

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