Evening with a Maniac

I sat down at $1/$3 NL last night. A few hands in I wake up with Pocket Aces.

Already I knew the player directly to the left of me has no regard for playing correctly.

I limped knowing he would raise and I hoped his raise would not mean anything to anyone else at the table so I could re-raise a much larger pot.

Like clock work.

I limp on the button $3, he raises from SB to $18

5 callers.

Back to me raise to $80.

He min re-raises $160.

All initial callers of the limp/raise/call folded and is back to me. I know my hand is the best to start but almost guarantee that at least 1 out of the 5 players had to of had an ace. I'm drawing to 1 to zero outs if I call.

I shoved hoping he knew I had aces it has to be 100% obvious by this point. I would have been happy to take down the pot right there.

I'm all in for a total of $300 PF.

He calls. With pocket 7's. I know this is an 80/20 but recalculate and think that no one may have had a 7 PF. So I'm taking this down to a 60/40 because he has outs and I might have the case ace buried in the muck.

Spikes a 7 on the river.

It was sick.

Pulled out my wallet re-bought and decided not to play against a gambler for the time being and rather play against other tourists. It's near impossible to get into a hand without him in it.

So he's gone to show down several times with suck outs on the turn or river.

I notice if I raise $18 PF, and then bet out $12-$20 on the flop he will re-raise me every time.

After a couple hours and a few decent sized pots I was able to grab off the other players, my stack is near $600, about even from the $300 suck out earlier.

I'm still waiting him out at this point. Waiting for a bigger hand to crush him. I normally play strong = strong, weak = weak. Changed it up here shortly. strong bets = strong, strong bets = weak.

About half an hour later he's losing his luck and starting to slowly bleed chips, his luck is running out. But he has almost $1K in front of him. We all know what happens to maniacs in longer sessions they will eventually lose it all.

He sucks out on a tourist for a gut shot straight draw on the river. Now, he has $1,200 and I'm starting to get frustrated. A little impatient and a little drained. Still sitting on $600.

I get ATs on the button. Not great, not horrible, folds all around.

I raise he re-raises and I flat call.

Flop is As 7d 10d

I lead out and bet $12 knowing he's going to re-raise me again. He will re-raise with absolutely anything.

Re-raise to $50

Back to me. He looked at his cards in a really stupid way and I saw a 2d

I raise. $300. HUGE BET RIGHT? $50 to $300 WHO MAKES THAT CALL?

He did.

Turn was a 6d most likely giving him the flush.

He said all in. And Since I pot committed myself to a maniac calling station on the flop I called out of frustration. a -2BI night is not that bad, it was probably a good time to call it quits.

So I have 4 outs. any ten, any ace, and I don't think they're coming. I'm ready to go home and pretend his face is my punching bag.

And like Barry Greenstein's book is titled. "Ace on the River"

I didn't want to turn it over. Huge suck out but I wanted to see his BS hand. I held my cards over like I was going to muck them. I told him "You're good." So I could see this disgusting hand worth $300 on the flop.

This guy threw over 2d 7c.

WHAT THE FUDGE!

I then showed him the boat I made, which I didn't even need. Why he called a $300 bet on the flop needing a runner runner for the lowest flush possible is beyond me.

Now, I stacked off $600 and I get a $1200 pot and he's sitting on $600.

Immediate next hand I was going to fold Qs Jh but it was just me and him. I raised this time he flat called.

Flop Qd 6s Qh

WOW what a helluva flop. I check he bets $30 I flat call in the off chance he has pocket 6's.

Turn 3c

Same I check he bets $90 this time. I call.

River Qs.

Wow, I hope he stacks off right? Not likely I mean wtf? You hardly ever profit from quads unless you have pocket QQ and the flop is AQQ and someone else has AA. Thats usually about the only time you can make a profit with that.

I kind of wanted to confuse him. I led out and bet $20 into a $270 almost $300 pot. And this happened.

Maniac: "I'm all in."

Of course I called. The maniac is now busto and I have $1800 in front of me and got a $40 bonus for quads which isn't shit in comparison to the past 2 hands. I gave the $40 to the dealer. Waited one orbit and right before the blinds hit me I took off. So I leave with a total of $1840. Profit of $1240. Threw the $40 into video poker spinning max bets on the penny machine for $1 a spin. Within 8 spins I hit my 2nd royal on those machines and made $880 on top of everything else.

All in all. After last night. I would love to sit to the right of the maniac I was sitting next to last night.

Total Profit including Video Poker Royal: $2420. Last night was by far EPIC!

Way to hang in, great story. You read it right, good thing his luck failed eventually .

Great story...pretty nice evening, I'd say.

Wow. I would stalk that guy. Haha, I guess you had a great night with an extra grand in your pocket.

It was pretty sweet. Sucks when you bust with AA when both players are all in PF and lose a $300 buy-in. Was thinking about quitting for the evening right there but took a walk, had a cigarette, then came right back to the table. Thankfully made the right choice for the evening.

haha pretty good story. sick night.

Yeah that's lucky of you not to go on super tilt and blow it all away. Let us now if you ever run into that guy again! LOL

Sounds like you had a great night! Very nice!

Whoa, Sean, I love this story! Makes me want to drop everything and hit the nearest casino right now. Seriously--way to stay and maintain some shrewd and savvy play. Yes, skill does prevail after all...

Congrats on your evening with a maniac! Really liked the weak bet where you gave the villian an opp to represent the case Q (or did he @ least have a boat for the all in).

im sure we all can say weve played next to a maniac b4 ....and have been sucked out on by them as well...but from the looks of things told by you ..ya you took a huge hit, but good thing you rebaught ...it was just a matter of time this moron was going to lose it all....and not a bad night at the casino tooo

Why the attempted slow roll on the 2nd hand?

I loved this story and missed the attempted slowroll. Is this a rhetorical question, cause I'm sure the whole table was enjoying the show.

It is still douchey as hell.

I knew you were going to say that in reply, have to agree its semi douchey but still funny as hell.

It maybe douchey, but what better way to extract revenge than to let him dig his own grave.

Nice story Sean.

What revenge, you act like he wronged him. He has his money, that is enough.

That is the revenge that I meant, nothing better than to take his money as revenge.
I didn't mean take him outside and give him a right old seeing to, or literally make him dig his own grave.

Nice story mate! If u have a fish at ur table who's payin ppl off/gettin lucky u wanna stay at that table untill he busts. He's like a slot machine.

which casino did u play at?

The casino is called Buffalo Thunder it's a small card room and the closest one to my house. I 100% agree that the slow roll was a douche move but, so was calling a $100+ re-raise on the flop for a what looked like a draw. And yes, all the players who had gotten sucked out by him or raised PF with AA KK QQ etc, he called those with K5, Q4, others and A2 where he turned 3 of a kind with deuces.

They loved it and were actually relieved that he went busto.

I never put the quote in their either

when I told him he was good when I had AT, he showed the 72o and I said "Ooops... I mean I have a full house." I know it's an asshole thing to do but I got my money back and at times, I need to vent and shove something like that in someones face.

I just got home from the casino just now and apparently he came back to the table with $300 and was actually playing what some would call "correctly"

sometimes in poker, life, work, relationships, sometimes you just gotta bitch slap someone (either mentally or physically) to get your point across.

I read somewhere that maniacs are the best to play against, yes they can suck out, but they pay you off big if you get anything.

That was a great comeback story. That guy got what he deserved for being such a maniac.

They are very profitable to play with but you're not priced in for draws with them. They are also very high risk too.

Ah, I only play micro stakes online, and really they're all maniacs down there... every hand seems to be 'high risk' everyone at microstakes wants to do it all preflop, if they have a big pocket pair or something like AQ they want it all in preflop... hard to even call it poker, microstakes should just be called preflopNpray...

Because you called his all in raise( on the slow roll hand) which player HAS to show first???I know uou wanted to see his cards.

I made him show his cards both times first. :-) Cuz I'm a jerk face

Dude didn't some dude sucker punch you leaving the casino one night for something you said at the table? Guess some people never learn. I remember reading that thread and thinking that you didn't deserve to be beaten but after reading this thread I'm pretty sure I was wrong.

All you had to do to see his cards was sit, wait and say nothing, which is a dick move but well within your rights. What you did was more than a little douchey.

Maybe a new avatar?

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Also stop seeing monsters under the bed, it's costing you money. Being afraid to get it AIPF with AA is ludicrous because you think someone may have folded your "outs". wtf?

I said nothing to that guy. I turned broad way to his set of kings with AJ.

But, was well deserved. No one was enjoying playing that night. And that's never what I want. I want a table full of talkative, "I'm here for fun", and semi-drunk players who have a nice buzz going on. I don't want to be at a table where you have to sit back and wait for aces and kings, I want them to play loose and have a smile on their face as the chips are passed to me.

Done.

Against a maniac, I wouldn't feel 100% comfortable without flopping a set or 2 pair against this guy.

That is an epic story! I love it when it works out like that. There are a few maniac regulars that come in to where I play and all the other regulars are fighting over who gets to sit at the table with the maniac.

Are maniacs somehow luckier than normal humans? Do the odds change when they're involved in the hand? You do realize that you're still a 77% favorite over any other pp even if the other 2 aces are gone. How much better do you want it before you take a fishes $$?

Love the avatar.

This guy definitely was luckier. Had plenty of things in his luckbox.

Great story and a good evening man, nice job

It depends on when the all-in is called. If it's before the river, the person first to act (from where the button sits) is expected to show first. (If I'm not mistaken, somebody better versed in the rules of poker could answer this question better.) Also, if the all-in was called on the river, the person who was called is expected to show first. You can just sit there and be a douche with your hole cards in your hand for as long as you want to though.

Eventually you gotta flip'em face up and shout SEND IT! though.

I tend to do this for pots worth <$12 for dramatic effect. It turns heads in the card room if you can do it convincing enough every time.

No. The person who made the last aggressive action (bet or raise) has to show 1st. It's decent etiquette for the person who calls and likely has the best hand to show 1st but by rule the person who raised AI or bet last has to show or muck.

Nice story there mate Good to see that u finaly bust the maniac.

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