Durrr challenge

Tom Dwan, who plays as durrr on FT, has offered up this challenge (the 'durrr challenge'):

Play 50,000 HU hands of NLHE or PLO at $200/$400, 4-tabling at all times. If Durrr wins, loser must pay $500,000. If Durrr loses, he pays $1.5M. Only caveat is he is excluding Phil Galfond (OMGClayAiken) from the challenge. Phil Ivey, David Benyamine and Patrick Antonius are taking him up on it...

How does he win or lose?

Are they betting whether or not he can play that much or are they betting on if he makes money while doing it?

If u win 1BB or more over the 50K hands Durrr gives u 1,5M if Durrr wins 1BB or more over the 50K hands u give him 500K

Edit: + the winner obviously keeps all the profits from the 50k hands

Wow....is he really that confident he can beat those top players over 50k hands?

Should be seriously interesting this. Durrrr has a lot at stake here, as it could seriously affect his reputation. From what I've read, only Ivey is confirmed, with David Benyamine and Patrick Antonius just considering it at the moment. Dwan also needs to stipulate that a percentage of the games be played at NLHE in my opinion, as that's where he's probably got the biggest edge. I heard Ivey saying someone could go bust, which imo, is just rubbish, even with pride at stake, Dwan, or any of them, aren't stupid enough to lose their entire rolls on this.

I wonder what you do if you're down $1 M after two weeks of the durrr challenge...just give up or try to grind back?

Durrrr should take this @ NLHE against david benyamine, omg, worst opponent I think would be Phil.

Umm, yes...Durrr and OMGClayAiken pretty much crush the top live poker pros at the high stakes games at FT.

I've read that Durrr feels his edge is bigger at PLO actually. Yes, he won't play Galfond because he feels his edge is huge over the guys who are basically live pros and not used to multitabling.

this is going to be relatively anti-climactic, but when durrr plays ivey someones going to end up buying out once theyre down like 25 buy ins

Damn that's challenge hope i can see it
when is it taking place ?
or what ?

yea this is definitely quite interesting. Definitely will be cool to observe. Dwan's got game obviously, but maybe theres some extra incentive in it for someone like Ivey to do it.

I challenged durrrr to .25/.50 500 Rummy and he totally chickened out. PWN3D!@!!!!!!!!111111111ONE1!!!!!11

The last interview with Durr that I heard he conceded that Antonious has edge in PLO

Durrr is by far the best online poker player in my opinion..nice deal for him i guess hahaha

Incentive = getting laid 3 to 1

I really wanna see him against Phil Ivey...and Patrik Antonious

What is going to be REALLY interesting is the last 3 or 4 hands, imagine a two-to-one chip stack, Durrrr will get crazy knowing he's going to loose $1.5M, of course that is, if someones willing to play him 5 hours a day for a month, against the same guy day after day..

Umm nope.

Fold, Fold, Fold, Fold. Fold.

In fact the moment one of them had a lead that could sustain the blinds for the remaining hands I imagine this is how it will go.

I guess the other pros just refuse to play durrrr HU nowadays so he needs to pay them to join his game.

so once they're up 1.50001 mil, they'd pay 1.5 mil in blinds to be guaranteed 1.5mil in winnings rather than playing breakeven poker or just nittin up a bit? I DONT THINK SO

when someone gets up x amount with only x amount of hands to go where they can fold to win the bet, the bet is over. So basically, 50k hands won't happen

i cant be the only one that worries what can happen to durrrr with this thing

if he does play 3 of these, esp against these 3 (ivey insanely rich, awesome player, pa the same as ivey, and db who will get backed and loves to play a hundred hours a week)

this isnt even taking into account skill and who is better
for the sake of argument lets say they are all equal on the skill part, what if someone gets stuck in a bad downswing (durrrr i mean)

if he loses match 1, has to buy out and then has to play the next 2 with that on his mind, esp since 20 or 30 buyins to each at this level could cripple him

i hear stories on 2+2 that durrrr is worth 10mil or more, but he could easily lose that if he does all 3 matches

db is probably the only other guy that can go busto in this, but he will no doubt be backed by his crew, so he will more or less be freerolling and since he loves the volume they may even be putting him in first to start to wear durrrr down

even if he can only breakeven (and even if he pays durrrr the 500k), it may be worth it for pa and ivey, since that match alone surely will take its toll on durrrr

i know that durrrr plays this nosebleeders everyday, but 3 months of 4tabling 50 hours a week, can burnout any of the best

Don't really worry about durrrr, no. Pretty sure if he went busto he'd have no problem getting staked to get right back in the game anyway.

indeed but look what losing their br has done to alot of other young online players

they usually never get back on top

Which basically proves that no matter how good a poker player you are, if your ego is bigger than your current stack of brain cells, your as big an idiot as the poorest poker player. Good BR management, risking min 45% of your bankroll is all 3 players actually play.

Durr wouldn't go busto, if he droped a ton in 1 match he would cancel the others. Also i would imagine, Glafond, Zig and the dang brothers would each have a piece of his action esp when he plays db. They won't have nay of the side bet action, but will have action on durr

It seems to me that the actual bet is rather negligible, as over 50k hands someone may well be up or down many millions at those stakes.

Someone could lose 3million in the games, and then be forced to pay up their share of the bet too. Someone may have a very bad day at the end of it.

I agree.....

50K hands.... WOW that is insane! I'm sure if you play smart, you can at least keep even and try to stay ahead or even with him you have a shot. Even if at the end of the 50K hands you are only ahead by .01 you win!

If you played the four tables, at 100 hands an hour, depending on how long you play (no less than 10 hours a day) this would be a 2-week venture...

Either a few weeks of hell, or a few weeks of fame and victory! Plus bragging rights.

it is argued that durrr isnt doing this because he thinks he can take a ton of money from ivey/db/antonius, but rather because if he does succeed in this, he will be viewed on the same level as ivey/antonius and can gain a profit share of the company (Fulltilt) and sign a deal that's very favorable to him (rather than just being a red pro like he would be if he signed now)

Seems like that is just a matter of time now vanq, IMO. Watching him on TV is more interesting than 99% of the other pros who play those games. There is certainly far more "buzz" around him than many of the old timers.

personally I would be more worried about Patrick and David then I would of Phil Ivey... I think this kid can do it... one hell of a player

You may be right... but methinks you reveal a little BRM leak in your own attitude. The blind sustainable lead I am talking about would have to happen in the homestretch of the game. That's just a math reality. We are talking about 50M in just BLINDS changing hands.

But I sustain that at a certain point at the end of the game it would be +EV to close up shop smiling.

Plus there is no breakeven poker or nitting up with these players.

At a certain point, it's likely the game will be over before 50k hands are up.

In the flip side Nick is right. in 50k hands of $500 poker there is a real chance someone either goes completely broke or cries uncle before the game is over.

The more I think about it, the more excited I am to see this play out.

Indeed. This may be the worlds biggest HU4RLZ match ever put on.

People aren't sick of Dwan yet? I understand how much he wins and loses online, thats great. But the fact is, he's now at the age to play in the WSOP. Lets see how well he does there over the next 5 years.

There's plenty of people making money online for years and nobody has ever made this big of a deal over them. I've watched Dwan play on FT and 85% of the time he puts his money in bad and sucks out. He's a sub par NL Hold em player and going against Ivey would be a mistake at that high level because Ivey could felt him. Dwan is pretty good at Omaha and has played Ivey and Zig many times and, from what I seen, broke even.

The funny thing is, when you speak to the rail or anyone about Dwan..they put my game down and talk about how much better he is then ME. lol So in that logic, I can't talk about sports or anything that others are better at. I just have to watch and not talk about bad calls because I was never a ref and the ref, because he does it for a living, knows more.

I think people should stop riding this kids....ego and wait until he actually does something in the poker world. Like maybe..win a WSOP.

GL on the felt.