The doom switch

This is a discussion on The doom switch within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; This happened to a friend of mine and you have to wonder,is it rigged?This is a long post but a very good read.Read it and ...
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  #1
14th December 2007, 8:04 PM
DetroitJimmy
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL holdem
The doom switch

This happened to a friend of mine and you have to wonder,is it rigged?This is a long post but a very good read.Read it and I promise you it will not be a waste of your time:

This is no BS, indisputable proof that the so called alleged "doom switch" really exists. I always thought I was just a bad player, once in a while getting lucky; but I really thought practice was the key. Boy was I wrong, I never thought I'd admit it, but I was down a few thousand from playing on pokerstars, and was down to my last $100 when desperation set in. Man was I desperate. I started eating dogfood in between SNG's, just because it's so damn cheap, and besides, Rocky was getting fat anyway. So as a last resort, I decided to write pokerstars a mildly threatening letter-

Dear Pokerstars,
Hi, I'm a fairly consistent losing player on your site. For some reason, whenever I go all in preflop, I lose usually 2/3 of the time. I used to to think it was just my play, but the more I watch the pro's on TV, their Ace is always good. So I started narrowing down my all-in preflop hands to only suited cards with an ace kicker, because that's what the pro's are doing. Still no luck, it seemed I was losing even more playing this way. I stopped paying my internet access bill because I was down about $4400 in 3 weeks, just from playing at your site. I don't know why, but something about that just struck me as odd, because people that gamble in real casinos do usually win about at least 1/2 the time.

So I did some reading up on online poker on the internet (I was forced to steal my neighbors wireless connection to get online because I had no money left). I heard about something called variation, but that couldn't be the case because I variate my play, and the 2 cards I usually push in on varies by the hand. So I kept reading, until I heard about something called the "doom switch", also known as the "cash out curse". Seemed like the only logical way I could be losing so much was if you had me on a high difficulty level. The only issue is is that I never yet cashed-out, so why would you put the curse on me?

I've been patient until now, but I've finally reached my wit's end. If you don't change my difficulty level to something easier, and I mean RIGHT AWAY, I'll have no choice but to either:
a)stop playing online poker altogether,
or,
b)join a more reputable site such as jetset poker

Just because I'm in the US doesn't mean you can take advantage of me.

Sincerely & angrily yours,
raisebot
Andrew xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(702) xxx-xxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Within 2 hours, I got the following reply:
****

Dear raisebot,

We here at PokerStars sincerely regret your unfortunate experience playing at our cardroom.

I personally checked with our tech dept, and mistakenly your account was set on T16 level, which is normally reserved for people that have already made a withdrawal. Initial deposit level is T01, where bad beats happen less 9/10's less often. We can see that you are a good and dedicated player, therefore, to keep you playing at PokerStars, I personally set your level at T00, where I can promise you a bad beat will not happen again within the next 2 (two) weeks from today. After that time, I have no choice but to raise your difficulty level from T00 to T05, which is basically a "break-even" level.

I assure you that even though you are in the USA and have a douchebag for pathetic excuse of a president, that does not influence our decisions in determining a player's current difficulty level.

I hope this is a satisfactory resolution for you; and hope that you will continue to show your support for PokerStars. If you have any further inquiries or questions, do not hesitate to contact me personally.

I have also credited your account with an additional 150 FPP's, which can be used to purchase merchandise and enter freerolls through our VIP store.

Yours truly,
Susan xxxxxxxxx
PokerStars Support
***********


Sounding too good to be true, I entered a SNG, with the sole intention of going all in to see if she was being truthful or not. The following result speaks for itself-

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  #2
14th December 2007, 8:12 PM
tenbob
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: Holdem
Classic
  #3
14th December 2007, 8:19 PM
WVHillbilly
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Thanks for posting this. Can you PM me with the name of the support person he received his response from?
  #4
14th December 2007, 8:24 PM
wsorbust
 
Poker at: Stars
I can understand if this is a joke. A very lenghty and worthwhile one btw.

But, then again, I can't help but be very gullible and wonder if these are actual emails? lol
  #5
14th December 2007, 8:35 PM
thasauce7
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: any card gam
Lol you got me pretty good there.
  #6
14th December 2007, 8:37 PM
WVHillbilly
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Let me assure you this is not a joke. I've already been in touch with Susan Xxxxxxxxx (her actual last name is Xxxxxxxxx BTW) and I've been assured that I'll be at T00 by tonight. I can't wait. Woot!
  #7
14th December 2007, 8:40 PM
KingCurtis
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
re: The doom switch poker

yeash this has to be a joke, the T levels that pokerstars sets you at lmao...anyways good one and if you are losing all that monery and having to steal wireless since you cant afford internet(if that was true) you may want to let poker go or play freerolls dont gamble more than you cab afford...but im sure your just playing...oh yeah the hand history is sick very nice
  #8
14th December 2007, 8:40 PM
concret817
 
Poker at: bodog.com
Game: holdem
thanks for the info. i once called bodog andtold them i wasn't going to play on their site any more and they gave me $20.00 in my cash account, to get me to keep playing there.
  #9
14th December 2007, 8:43 PM
KingCurtis
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
Let me assure you this is not a joke. I've already been in touch with Susan Xxxxxxxxx (her actual last name is Xxxxxxxxx BTW) and I've been assured that I'll be at T00 by tonight. I can't wait. Woot!
yeah i actualy used some PS points to get down to T-05 no bad beats and allcashes in tourneys the ony thing i ran into was that my straight flush got beat by a royal but that was nothing..
  #10
14th December 2007, 8:46 PM
tenbob
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: Holdem
If you get SuperNova Elite without ever cashing out you get T-09 its rumoured.
  #11
14th December 2007, 9:31 PM
KingCurtis
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
Quote:
Originally Posted by concret817
thanks for the info. i once called bodog andtold them i wasn't going to play on their site any more and they gave me $20.00 in my cash account, to get me to keep playing there.
i tried thisd with FT and this is what they sent me
i pretty much said i would not be playing because of bad beats lkol which i wa s lying but yeah

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

I am sorry that poker has not been going as well as you would like.
Unfortunately, it is human nature to focus on the negative, and not on
the positive events. Further aggravating this phenomenon is the fact
that while a player will remember almost every instance that his or her
hand gets outdrawn, the player is much less likely to notice when his or
her hand holds up or when the player is the one that outdrew the
opponent. This is largely because a player is much less likely to know
when they got lucky because in those instances, very often the loser of
the hand will quietly muck his/her cards, and in some cases such as an
opponent?s draw missing, the winning player will never know this fact.

There are many reasons that a player may feel that they are unluckier
than others, but please be assured that the shuffle is random, and cards
are distributed fairly. It is just that perceptions play such a large
role in how one reacts to certain events.

I realize that this may not necessarily make you feel better, but rest
assured that everybody experiences outdraws as they are such an integral
part of poker. Even the pros experience beats, but part of what
separates a very good player from a lesser player is largely to do with
how they handle the situation after such a beat or series of beats, and
to not let that affect their game.

We wish you the best of luck and hope that the cards will turn around
for the better!

Regards,

Aaron M
Poker Specialist
Full Tilt Poker Support


  #12
14th December 2007, 9:37 PM
vanquish
 
i emailed pokerstars and said "i wanna win the sunday million or else im gonna tell everyone i know to stop playing at your site"
they already registered me for the tournament (even though i cant afford the buyin). i cant wait till sunday!
  #13
14th December 2007, 10:02 PM
AnnoDomino
 
Online Poker at: stars
obvious call, they were suited
  #14
14th December 2007, 10:04 PM
DetroitJimmy
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL holdem
re: The doom switch poker

Thought yall might get a kick out of this.I saw it posted at another forum some time ago and felt a need to plagiarize it.

The funny thing is a lot of people there thought it was for real.
  #15
14th December 2007, 10:05 PM
switch0723
 
as entertaining as hte post was, it is obviously a joke. 3 key points

1. The emailer called george bush a douchebag, i dont quite believe they would do that

2. I dont think they would divulge this information, since why would they tell a random member this kind of stuff, when it can be information that can get them sewed for cheating players out of money, and can be a reason why they can be neglected as a poker site

3. You just openly admitted to stealing internet which is a criminal offence where i live
  #16
14th December 2007, 10:11 PM
dj11
 
Poker at: PSFTUBPOSB&O
Game: Horse.
Good find, thanks for sharing Jimmy.
  #17
14th December 2007, 10:18 PM
switch0723
 
also the attachment could not be more made up. The pokerstars agreement was that you would not suffer a bad beat, this does not mean you would win every hand. In your attachment, why would the kings and aces flat call the min raise? a bit fishy. Also if you were to randomly go all in first hand, what are the chances in these hand coming up, well thats one for a,g to answer. You could have made it more believable by having pok tens vs king ten, king q and q,ten and the tens holding up.

And in response to my first post, i think they would have rathered you quit than to have to reveal this information
  #18
14th December 2007, 10:25 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: yes
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch0723
as entertaining as hte post was, it is obviously a joke. 3 key points

1. The emailer called george bush a douchebag, i dont quite believe they would do that

2. I dont think they would divulge this information, since why would they tell a random member this kind of stuff, when it can be information that can get them sewed for cheating players out of money, and can be a reason why they can be neglected as a poker site

3. You just openly admitted to stealing internet which is a criminal offence where i live
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch0723
also the attachment could not be more made up. The pokerstars agreement was that you would not suffer a bad beat, this does not mean you would win every hand. In your attachment, why would the kings and aces flat call the min raise? a bit fishy. Also if you were to randomly go all in first hand, what are the chances in these hand coming up, well thats one for a,g to answer. You could have made it more believable by having pok tens vs king ten, king q and q,ten and the tens holding up.

And in response to my first post, i think they would have rathered you quit than to have to reveal this information
  #19
14th December 2007, 10:33 PM
switch0723
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
LMFAO, brilliant, ill take this on face value and shut up
  #20
14th December 2007, 11:10 PM
Egon Towst
 
Poker at: 32 sites
Game: HE, PLO, 5CD
Great thread, and lol @ Dorkus.
  #21
14th December 2007, 11:19 PM
rob5775
 
Online Poker at: stars/ FT
Game: stud/omaha
re: The doom switch poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitJimmy
The funny thing is a lot of people there thought it was for real.

I think we have that problem here too.

Sounds like a letter Vanquish would write: "STOP DOOMSWITCHING ME PLZ. I WANT T-00."... followed by a fistpump.


  #22
14th December 2007, 11:24 PM
switch0723
 
dammit, how did everybody know it was a joke. I am such a sucker for falling into this, no wonder i fall into traps so often at the table
  #23
15th December 2007, 2:25 AM
jaymfc
 
Online Poker at: bodog
Game: love em all
COOL JIMMY , I like the hand replay , why can't we all do that ?

lol @ switch , wanna buy some beach front property in arkansas ?
  #24
15th December 2007, 2:45 AM
pigpen02
 
Poker at: FTP & PS
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by switch0723
dammit, how did everybody know it was a joke. I am such a sucker for falling into this, no wonder i fall into traps so often at the table
Once you have read three dozen "RIGGED" posts you can tell in the first sentence. -- 'This is no BS, indisputable proof that the so called alleged "doom switch" really exists.' -- Should have gotten it by here.
  #25
15th December 2007, 6:43 AM
juiceeQ
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitJimmy
I started eating dogfood in between SNG's...
Purina puts out some choice beef cutlets. Just saying.


Oh, and <3 Chris.
  #26
15th December 2007, 8:33 AM
TandA_lover
 
Poker at: fulltiltpoke
Game: holdem
What exactly is a t01, t10, t11? i play a lot of poker online but nothin more than 10 doller SNG's..so sites are set with what kind of cards you recieve
  #27
15th December 2007, 9:52 AM
belladonna05
 
  #28
15th December 2007, 1:59 PM
switch0723
 
re: The doom switch poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymfc
lol @ switch , wanna buy some beach front property in arkansas ?
I do actually, then i will be the only 1 with a beach front property in arkansas (since i dont live in america, i am now just praying that arkansas isn't on the coast, and i havn't made myself look like a sucker again)


Quote:
Originally Posted by TandA_lover
What exactly is a t01, t10, t11? i play a lot of poker online but nothin more than 10 doller SNG's..so sites are set with what kind of cards you recieve
At least i worked it out before the guy who plays at fulltiltpoke
  #29
13th February 2008, 7:19 PM
DetroitJimmy
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL holdem
Bump!!!!Sorry to dredge up old threads,but I figured I would put this out there for all the newer members.
  #30
13th February 2008, 8:19 PM
IamBP
 
Poker at: Sportsbook
Game: HORSE
How did I miss this when it was first posted? Man I just ROTFLMAOACMP a bit
  #31
13th February 2008, 8:28 PM
Coasterdude28
 
Game: Holdem
Funny. Thanks for bumping this. It was a good read. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that believe this actually happens.
  #32
13th February 2008, 8:49 PM
switch0723
 
ughhh, thats right, bump my unfortunate gullibleness (spelling?)
  #33
14th February 2008, 12:38 AM
MrMuckets
 
Online Poker at: FullTilt
I just suffered a really badbeat on pokerstars and came in here and read this. It's a good thing he called the president a douchebag or i would have probably believed every word.
  #34
14th February 2008, 8:31 AM
nevadanick
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: stud
Quote:
Originally Posted by wsorbust
I can understand if this is a joke. A very lenghty and worthwhile one btw.

But, then again, I can't help but be very gullible and wonder if these are actual emails? lol
Well, hmpff, they're either real e-mails, or online poker is RIGGED ...
  #35
14th February 2008, 8:43 AM
pkrplr4116
 
Game: Holdem
re: The doom switch poker

ROFLMAO
 



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