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| Does it count as a suckout/badbeat if... If you simply outdraw your opponent and you're the aggressor who puts more than 1/2 her chips when the winning hand hits the board, in this 9d to a straight flush, is it still a bad beat when your opponent has KJos and flops the nut straight to your Jd8d which flops second straight with outs to a flush and oh so obviously but not likely straight flush? |
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| It's different when you're the aggressor, but if they make the correct call then you draw out on them, then yes I'd say it's a suckout. I think what matters is whether or not you made the right play, not who won the hand so the whole suckout thing seems irrelivant. You put your chips in with a big draw, which is a good semi-bluff because you're not far behind and will win it a good amount of the time but you did semi-bluff into someone who'd flopped the nuts. |
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| KsJc vs. Jd8d on a QdTd9h flop is a 60% favorite to win the hand. If you hit your flush (straight flush or normal flush), yes, you sucked out. Does this make your play a bad play? Not at all. In a cash game I'd be hardpressed to narrow villain's range specifically to the nut straight (two pair, sets, tptk, overpair, straight draw are all hands villain might be betting strongly), and even if he has it, we've likely got outs to win the hand. In a cash game, I'd be trying to get all the money in the middle on this flop. |
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| Right, I mean it's hard to actually put them on anything unless they're super-transparent. Even then it can be tough to know when they really have the best hand. My opponent didn't complain or anything. I'm having to do the short stack thing until I either rebuild + build up from $15 or so by playing the way I did I was forced to leave when no more playable hands came b4 the BB. I finally learned my lesson, I hope. Get out with over 2x your buy-in. So in this instance I left with over a dollar having bought in with 40c. Yes I am at the moment, short-stacking, ratholing vermin. No choice. Thankfully I'll be way ahead by the time take 2 finishes. Sounds like you just got burned kidnovo. Ouchie. I know the feeling, wouldn't be vermin at the moment if I didn't. Anyway that's way different, I mean all the loot went in pre-flop and it was AQ vs AJ. I'd call that a cooler, not unlike AA vs KK. This was just the instance where the weak hand won. I don't think I'd get griped over it since all the money went in pre-flop. I know me, and for some reason I never get bummed when my strong hand gets beat by a weaker but still strong hand that I know I probably wouldn't fold in the same situation. However, if I had seen the flop I might get griped, top set top kicker and all. Then again if I had been bluffing too much or was bullying a short stack, I wouldn't be able to fault them for chasing a straight or flush. |
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