Does anybody know about Clonie Gowen's case with Full Tilt?

I heard that she was filing a lawsuit against Full Tilt for 1% of Full Tilt. Full Tilt is worth 40 billion dollars and she's suing Full Tilt for 40 million dollars. I think this is completely insane. It has to be a joke. She said she made an "oral agreement", which is very retarded because any contracts and any agreements should be written and officially validated. Even Daniel Negreanu criticized her for this. Full Tilt and Pokerstars can have shady people behind their back. I personally think she picked a wrong company to mess with. Does anybody know anything about this?

I read it from here.

http://www.pokernetwork.com/news/clo...art-ii3071.htm

I have respect for her for her beauty and one of top female poker players out there but this lawsuit against Full Tilt for 40 million dollars is just insane.

Negreanu might have criticized her but there's not a lot of support for his position according to that article. If, as he says, she's making stuff up to get an out of court settlement then i would've thought FTP have the wherewithal to take her on. But it does sound like there's no smoke without fire. Interesting.

I mean of course, Daniel's opinion doesn't mean anything about whether clonie is right or wrong. I'm sure she knows what she's doing and she was victim of full tilt agreement. But I think it's ridiculous to sue a company for 40 million dollars. This can be just as bad as Pearson v Chung's case where Pearson, who is an attorney, sued a family for 67 million dollars over a loss of pants. I mean, I'm sure Full Tilt did something unethical, immoral acts to her to dissatisfy her but lawsuit for 40 million dollars is insane. I'm wondering what's happening about this case right now.

It sounds like she feels she was promised 1% of FTP at some point. So the $40m is based on that rather than some figure she's just pulled out of the air to equate to the 'damages' she's suffered.

Not sure about Pearson's pants but he must've been very attached to them to sue for $67m...

For the most part the lawsuit has been dismissed see http://www.pokerlistings.com/gowen-lawsuit-tilts-40080

Or you could just search CC and see that we already talked about it, back when the news first came out that it was dismissed...

I guess Clonie Gowen will have to make her $40 Million the old fashioned way...

Aah sweet. Because now, she doesnt have full tilt logo on her anymore. And I saw National heads-up and she got eliminated by Jerry Yang first round. I dont' know why she put up all of her chips with T3o against Yang's A8o. But anyways, she got eliminated pretty quickly.

No idea where this all stands, just my 2cents. She probably caughty a bad roll of cards. Maybe under invested or didnt manage her bankroll better. Money and poker do funny things to peoples percesptions of reality.

Yea that's old news but she is just being a poor sport/bad loser. She was a terrible poker player & was reckless w/ her $$$ & went broke. When she kept asking people for $$$ & they would turn her down (because they knew she wouldn't use it wisely), she got mad & threw a temper tantrum. The only way she could support her drug habit is by lookin' for an excuse to sue FTP. IMO, she's just some1 to laugh @

Well she was looking a bit better yesterday than she did in '08. I guess she found $1500 somewhere to play PLO.


Yesterday


2008

just to make a remark here,wow firstly i had no idea,fulltilt could be worth 40 billion dollars,and 1% of that makes it 400 million,she must be nuts to sue for that much...how can anyone rely on such an oral contract anyways

Depends whether you use the UK definition of a billion, or the US definition.

I make lot of typo errors. Full Tilt is worth 4 billion dollars. So therefore, she was suing them for 40 million dollars. I'm glad she didn't win. It's very ridiculous. I had a strong feeling that she was pulling things out of her ass to sue the company.

Yea the cases got dismissed nut she can appeal it. I don't know the whole storing but I still think she is a fairly solid poker player and I do belive Carbon poker might pick her up and I would like to pick her up myself . She pretty good looking for a middle aged woman.

she's still one of top 10 female poker players in the world. regardless of how the case got solved, I got a different perception on Daniel Negreanu now. I dunno if that's really daniel negreanu who said this or some troll impersonating as daniel negreanu but if he really said this, then I lost some respect for him.

Daniel Negreanu's view towards this case
"She has gone absolutely ding bat crazy and is making things up. There is just no freaking way they'd offer her 1%, no freaking way. This feels more like crazy ex-girlfriend extortion than anything else. I really hope she doesn't get away with this, luckily I don't think she will. What an idiot.
It's so obvious what she is trying to do. Who do you think posted the link on the internet? She wants to create a stir in the hopes that she can get some kind of home rum settlement figuring FTP can afford it and it's easier to throw money at her and make her go away. All of it based on complete lunacy and lies. I hope she ends up with what she deserves: nothing. She's ruined herself with this move. I'll never speak to her again, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Clonie has officially lost her mind and is probably going to end up with nothing, broke, and out of poker within the next two years. It's over for her.
As for Clonie, naming random people associated with FTP in a lawsuit is extremely irresponsible and inappropriate. It's like she's just throwing darts and guessing. She's not going to make any friends doing that. I mean, Mike Matusow? Like he needs to be on that suit, it's ridiculous."

If Daniel really said this, then I have slightly lost respect for him. I got respect for him for his poker skills and I thought he was a nice person in general but who the hell does he think he is to bash one of top female players when he doesn 't know anything about this case? Even I probably know this case better than him and I don't know exact details about the lawsuit. I'm gonna have to agree with Kevin O'Donnell who responded to Daniel by saying this


"There has been more mud thrown around on this than the presidential election. Only this time, Negreanu, you have thrown most of it, in a race you're not even in.
I have always found Clonie to be not only a good person, but a great ambassador for FT.
I do know that she has been in every TV ad and picture as a member of team Full Tilt until a little while back. I don't know (nor do you), what the arrangement that she had with FT was, but to assume there was nothing at all, would be a little naive.
I think the best thing you can do Daniel, is go have your mom make you lunch, chill out, and mind your own business. All the people I have had the pleasure of meeting on "The FT Team" are very nice people with more integrity and manners than you have shown here. They all seem, intelligent and capable enough of dealing with any issues they might have with Clonie, one on one in private.
I might not be much of a poker player, but, I do know right from wrong, and you are WAY wrong in your attempted public assassination of a nice person."

IS she saying that she is part owner for the idea behind FullTilt? Does she have a video tape or something?

Bear in mind that in the professional Poker community, oral agreements are common place and, usually, enforceable, (see Jamie Gold main event case, he was sued for half his winnings & paid up over an oral agreement). I agree that all agreements of this magnitude should be in writing, but understand that these people make their livelihood on the felt where all statements are binding.

I don't mean this to sound like I supported her side, just saying that contracts do not need to be in writing to be enforced. Just that any contract that I am involved in, will be.

I know nothing about this case but i can tell u that a verbal contract is legal and binding.provided u can prove the contract was made

fulltilt is worth 4 billion dollars!!! dam!!!!


anybody know roughly how much pokerstars is worth!???

In Gold's case, Crispin Leyser had an audio recording on a voice mailbox with Gold saying that he would pay him his half.

i think the whole thing is just stupid on her end but w/e

Waste of time.

im assuming around that much

I was under the impression that PokerStars was a lot bigger than FullTilt - but what do I know...

Poker Stars has to be a bigger Company

As of this moment Fulltilt 72,000 on line

POKERSTARS 208,000 on line

I thought this was old news. I remember reading a thread on here about this before and thinking what an idiot. What she said was laughable. I think I remember something about her and 6 other pros being in a room and being told they would all get 1% of the company or something but yet none of the other pros can confirm this. If this is it or not she is ruining her name and Im not going to waste my time reading the article about this idiot agian.

She relies on oral!!!!! so thats how she gets by.

An Oral contract is not worth the paper it is written on.

LOL Zorba... I wouldnt mind her making an oral agreement with me either. But I'm not worth 40 Billion Dollars (closer to $100 Billion)