Do You think You Can do What Chris fergusson did?

I Just want to know, do u really and that goes to from the novice to the aveage to the above average player do u believe that u can do what he did, make nothing into something, so big?

I mean yes we all believe we can do it, and we all have dreams but the trueth is, I don't think it's something that can be done "just because we want it", it takes dedication, hard work, and something that only ppl, who in all aspects, are champs, for instance look at Jordan, Ruth, Gretzky,Doyle, Phil Hellmuth, and Ferguson himself... These ppl had that extra little something that sets them apart from the rest of us, now the question I purpose to all is what do u think they all had in common? Look at Basket-Ball, Base-Ball, and Hockey, that takes alot of stamina, practise, and lot of skill just to sum it up, but for poker which can also be catorgorized in the same feild to a certain degree, and by certain I mean, yes it takes alot of excellent reads, and yes it does take alot of practise, but then again isn't it just a game of cards? Don't get me wrong I'm not a good poker player, heck I'd say I'm actually below average (not by much though ), and in time will get better, but what or how does one go about being as great as those ppl???

Just wondering on other ppls in take on this topic

I honestly believe I can do it - though I wouldn't be keen to put a timeframe on it.

I think the draw to the poker world for a lot of people is the possibilities. And unfortunately for many of them I think its kind of a perverted view of the poker world that is shown on TV. For every Furgason or Brunson there are thousands of people that don't make it and suffer hardships because of the sacrifices they have made. Playing poker at the top level is not an easy thing to accomplish. There is so much luck involved and if a person can't deal with the ups and downs it can consume them.

I personally do not want to be a famous tourny player. I want to be a very profitable cash game player. One that slides under the radar and goes unnoticed. The fame would be awesome, but I feel the pressure and hype would be too much for me to handle. It would take a lot of the enjoyment out of the game. And if I didn't enjoy it, the money would not be worth it to me.

I am pretty sure I could do it, I'm not sure how long it would take. How high did he get anyway? 10,000?

As do I. I started around 8 months ago with $1 and am currently at $138. It is very hard and takes unbelievable amounts of discipline. I found his graph very interesting Chris Ferguson turns $0 into $10,000 on Full Tilt Poker

Look how long it took him to get momenteum. I'm doing it to test my ability to have a goal and stay focused on it. If you do try it good luck but make sure you have patience.

I Have done about 1/4 of what Ferguson did. I started on April 3rd with 0$ and right now im around 2.5k. check my blog for more info in my sig.

I am sure that I could... Problem is that in my mind, it makes alot more sense to deposit even 50 bucks and start to build it from there. You notice that Fergusson took forever to get out of the few dollar category, then it went smoothly (as it can in micro) from there on.

He dont play as often as some of us do

i could, but i wouldn't enjoy it

I'm giving it a serious shot.

I'm trying with all I've got right now. Even though I'm no where near as good as I thought I was, and I sometimes rush things, I still manage to get my BR to break even within a day or 2. All it takes is patients IMO.

That is probably true.

wow, alot of ppl with alot of confidence on here, well I hope the best for u all, I myself don't think i can do it, for the simple fact that i can't devote that much time and effort into poker, nor do I have the patience

I think that you cant devote the time and effort only because it takes so long to really build any kind of bankroll. I think that anyone could do it, it is a matter of discipline. Again, I would much much rather put even 50 dollars on the account and start grinding from there. Because I have 14 cents on my FTP account and it sucks to try and build anything out of it!! (You can really only play that 10cent rebuy...)

Did it, done it, dont ever want to do it again!

I did 10$-->1000$ in one month. However, i then lost ~150$ and withdrew basically everything i had. Tried to start again from a very small BR (15$) and just could not do it properly because i was so used to playing 20$+ SnGs that i couldn't handle playing micro stakes with the low return. So i ended up busting (had made it up to about 100$) after a little tilt session. If i go back to that site, i will deposit a large amount and just play until i have worked off the bonuses (very nice first 200% first deposit bonus comes around occasionally) then shut it down. I'm quite confident i no longer have the patience to start from low there again (tho i can start from 50$ BRs on other sites and play micro stakes...simply because i don't have any association with mid level stakes there).

The question is, however, why would you want to? There are plenty of affiliate sites that offer free BRs at alot of sites (but ofc for sites that have rakeback, it is the better choice coz you'll make alot more in the long run). If you aren't from US go look up ipoker sites. Rakeback isn't allowed at ipoker i don't think and most of the sites have some sort of 50-150$ free BR offered.

I can't think of why I would ever want to do this though, I'd rather just deposit a small amount to start out with instead of starting with absolutely nothing. It took him so long just to get started and I'd probably go crazy playing free rolls.

Thats the problem with the micro stakes, why would you ever want to play in freerolls with thousands of idiots?

I guarentee you if you walked around and looked for change on the ground you could find $3-4 in a day and it would make it 1000x times easier then trying to win some money in a freeroll.

I personally know I couldnt do it, I would feel that my hours and hours of play to win a few pennies would not be worth it for me. Its a great thing to be able to say youve accomplished but its really very pointless unless your someone like Chris with lots of time on your hands to play poker or your just playing for 100% fun and not looking to win any money.

The only reason I personally would want to do this is for the simple fact of the A) Braggin rights, B)

I don't think there is any difference between going from $50-10,000 than 0-10,000. In terms of bragging anyway

that's true not a big diffence both are bragable, lol, if that's even a word bragable, sound like a word to me...

You must of been playing without BR management the whole time to achieve such a feat.

Bob_tiger > Chris Ferguson

BOB_TIGER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chris ferguson

excellent thread...

my 2 cents....FACT-Ferguson is a multi-millionaire and a proven successful pro, I assume he took on this challenge for his own amusement or maybe a distraction/challenge to give him a break from the pro circuit grind. Whatever his motivation was, I think it's pretty cool that he chose to do it and make it a shared public thing.

I believe that he is seperated from the pack because he posesses a combination of things; high intelligence, experience, poker skills, psychology skills, super high discipline, etc..., these are traits that are not easily attainable, he is an exceptional man.

To say; "If Ferguson can do it, then I can do it", eh, not so sure about that. But going for it is great, GL to ya...

No not really. At the start yes. In fact, when i had about 15$ i actually was intending to quit the site and went onto a NL50 table i think but ended up coming away with about 45$ and figured i might as well continue. I played cash for quite a while and was rolled fine until i decided to do full buy in to NL20 with ~200 BR. Technically that isn't good BR management, HOWEVER, i felt (and correctly given the circumstances) that buying in for full was less dangerous to my BR than buying in for double the min etc because the odds of losing a buy in was much lower. I should have been playing NL10 but i thought that it was safe enough to play NL20 and that the profits would be significantly more. I then started playing SnGs. I played 5$ SnGs for quite some time with a BR of 300-500 (i can't really remember) then started 10$ 10 man SnGs and hit a hot run where i made about 300$ very quickly (finishing positions were pretty much 1 1 1 2 out out out 1 1 1 out out etc). And then once i hit about 700-800$ i started 20$ SnGs (mainly HU). 20$ were pretty variable, and sometimes i'd lose quite a bit but i also had several 100$+ days. I also started playing cash games more near the end (which i should have probably stuck with as i made alot more playing cash than i did in SnGs overall). 1000$ in a month is only about 30$ a day...not really that much of a feat once you have a bit of a BR behind you. And also i only made 850$ total in the month as i said due to a horrible/tilty run at the end of the month.

But then like i said, i tried it again (actually 2 times now that i think about it). First was with 15$, and i had made that to 70$ and then by accident joined a $50 HU game instead of a 5$ HU game (yes im an idiot who can't read) so that was the end of that. Second i actually did literally start from freeroll earnings by winning about 2$ in a points freeroll (only one i played however, i was trying to burn off a few points). I got that to 30$ (using terrible BR management mind you) then was able to add 75$ from points cash in. However, the grind at the low stakes was just too frustrating for me and i ended up tilting it off. I was running very very poorly and was sick of hovering around 100$ BR and having to play 5$ games. In hindsight i should have just withdrawn because i really no longer had any desire to play at that site so losing my BR didn't worry me enough.

Before someone sees this and thinks "wow, what a great idea - I should do that", they should understand that it is against the rules to do so.

The bottom line is, this is in violation of policy at nearly every site. First deposit bonuses are for new customers - opening an account, clearing the bonus (or having the referral paid out to an affiliate), and then opening another one account is asking for them to come after you for fraudulent behavior.

I know this is off-topic, and I apologize for the hijack, but a lot of new people trust CC as a source of good advice and this is a case where the advice is bad.

i think i will try this on FT.

think i can pull it off. uh no.

What the hell are you talking about? I have never deposited at that site (the $10 was a free sign up bonus) and if i want to take advantage of the first deposit bonus, then clear the bonus and no longer continue playing at the site that is absolutely my perogative. I currently have 0.00$ at that particular site...who are you to tell me that depositing and using the first deposit bonus is fraudulent?

I presume you are suggesting that i would open a new account and try to get the first deposit bonus again. I suggest that you don't make assumptions about a particular post before making absolutely ridiculous claims about the integrity of somebody's advice.

Well after 8 months I'm 5% of the way there and still working on it. I think it's very possible to do it. It's at least nearly impossible to fail with proper BR management.

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For anyone who is good at poker and has some outside source of income I think 0->10k is a very bad idea, there's no point to it.
You can make $50 working for at most 10 hours at a department store or whatever, or better yet join a focus group they'll give you $100 at least usually for 2 hours just telling them some BS, rather than spending 100+ hours trying to build up a roll from nothing.
If, on the other hand, you lack experience at poker it's probably not terrible to grind out a bankroll from freerolls as you get a bit of experience at how the game works, but you'd still likely be better off just playing minimal amounts of cash since people play semi-rationally when they have to pay so you'll learn more skills you'd have to learn later anyhow, probably costing you your roll earned at freerolls anyhow. And if you're just starting out I'd say poker books (even if it's the public library's crappy selection) are probably a better expenditure of your time and resources than grinding it out at the beginning to learn the basics of play.

I've started out with low amounts of cash twice $34 and $2, when I first started playing and then after coming back to playing after a couple years break, and it's so much easier to build a roll with even the $34 than the $2 that I firmly believe it's in the best interests of a decent player to make at least a small deposit. For the $2 after 176 games I was only at $28.63 from playing $.55 ultra turbo STTs (not the best choice probably, but it worked since I'd have limited time to play and I suck at cash games,) I threw BRM at that point, playing $5 and $10s and built it up to $179 in the next 16 tourneys as I had a deposit method available to me at that point in case I went bust, and it's been growing nicely since then. The point of all that is (aside from bragging that you're going to make a lot more money more quickly if you have even a small bankroll to start with if you know how to play decently well. For people who don't know how to play well freerolls or the lowest stakes you can find might be more advisable of course.

As often as I''ve tried, I have never yet succeeded in slicing a banana with a thrown playing card. No, wait...........different Chris Ferguson task. Nevermind.