Do as I say, not as I do???

Last fall, i think it was, I posted a thread about practicing what you preached.....In in I commented on how many of our players here in CC didnt always follow thier own advice.
As I watch the 2008 Wsop on tv again, I have noticed very few (ok, none that I saw) of the pro's that wrote books are following thier own advice.

Is this something as simple as the situation, since we never see the 30 hands leading up to the hand that is broadcast, Or has poker evloved to the point that the strategies and tactics we have all become familure with are no longer valid?

Please think about this before replying, I am very curious to see what everyone has to say om this.

The problem with Televised poker is we don't see the 1000's of standard hands that lead to the exciting non-standard hands that make TV because they are exciting.

To answer your question, IMO - it is situation specific and we don't have the previous information.

I honestly think it's more of the latter. Part of the problem with publishing books and telling people "how to play poker properly" etc is if they follow those rules, then you can't use the same strategies. As most poker players realize you can't use the SAME exact strategy every time you play. Being able to adjust to a table/situation is key. I honestly feel that the pro's have had to switch things up a little bit in order to continue to profit/get further in tournaments.

Can you give an example? I can't really respond when I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to.

That is so funny because i try to mentor players a lot and i seem to come up with some great advice all the time. Unfortunately when i play myself at times i hardly follow my own directions. I geuss you can say i was caught up in the heat of the battle and not thinking straigh, but all in all its a case of do as i say not as i do

its not any one specific event I am talking about, its poker in general.
I have seen it here, online and at live tables in card rooms and casinos. Pro's and amatures alike making calls with out the odds......calling with marginal (at best) hands....playing out of position. I am wondering if its just boredom, trying to get some attention on TV, attempt to put players on tilt or has the game of poker become something else. Something different than it used to be.

Your thread topic isn't very specific, but if you are referring to the NL Hold Em Main Event, then I might have a possible answer for you. A large majority of the players in the Main Event are amateurs (fishy ones at that), and tend to play quite terribly. Televised hands between an amateur and a pro might show the pro trying to trap/induce mistakes/play the man rather than straightforward TAG play.

Yes poker on the whole has become something different to what it used to be. But you really can't read too much into televised hands given that they're completely out of context - especially WSOP telecasts, which are heavily edited.

Well specifically cash games are usually so deepstacked on TV that the strategy they've written in books meant for ~100 BB play doesn't really apply. If you are 500 BBs deep you can easily be flatting 3-bets with 78s whereas 100 BBs deep that'd be pretty spewy. I mean obviously without specifics I really don't know what to say other than the fact that I personally haven't seen pros playing an opposite strategy from what they preach in books. There are only a few pros that currently play that wrote books. I'm sure they make mistakes though and making decisions while writing a book is a lot easier than when in the heat of the moment. I don't watch much live tourney coverage so I can't even respond about that.

If all the pros played the way they discuss in their books, then most people (especially if they have read that pro's book & obtain that knowledge well enough) will have better reads on them. You definitely don't want that, the object is (especially in LIVE play) to give away the least amount of reads as possible or your game becomes -EV.

Some pros have been known to give out, not necessarily 'false' info, but info that contradicts their own play.

There comes a time & point where giving out correct advise all the time &/or portraying your game plan will end up -EV.

Let me state a very amateurish answer an see who wants to take their turn pointing out every little mistake i make.

Pros when writing a book have to cater to their audience namely amateurs like me. This is not the style most pros play they play very LAG ( loose aggressive) even HAG ( Hyper aggressive) but the books are supposedly for the casual player and the best game for them to play is TAG ( tight aggressive). Hence a difference between what they preach in their books and how they actually play.

I have noticed most pros change the way they play drastically (or what is shown on tv anyway) in the WSOP in comparison to the smaller televised tourneys or cash games. My guess is just the vast amount of players and the coverage makes them change their style.

I think that's a fairly good assumption... makes sense to me anyways

flatting 3bets with 78s? bro we can easily 4bet that. kinda sucks if we get 5bet but what are ya gonna do, i mean its not like we can fold cuz bro we got the 78 sooted.

Sorry I'm not sure if this is meant to be funny, but what has it got to do with the OP.

I took note of that too... I hope to help out members, by telling how i play, what i am thinking well playing.

Like my 10K suited, in the BB.
I only tell what i think on a hand, if i have been in that spot before.
I think it is to make you think, one way of playing, but not adding what there thinking, when there playing a hand.....
My thoughts for you, Cowboy.

all is , your bud Steven