Difference between a donkey and a fish

Is there one?

in short, not really. donkeys are fish. a fish is a donkey.

I've always felt there was a slight connotation of fish being more apt to chase down that runner runner flush or straight while a donkey tends to just raise with any two suited or paint and has no regard for things like table image or position.

That sounds a little bit like what I suspected. That a fish is sort of a newbie. Not very experienced and apt to make predictable mistakes. That a donkey is a sort of idiot...clueless and not too concerned about it.

Does it matter. Oh and all fish are different, they all make different mistakes. Your job is to figure out which leaks and exploit them.

I figure a "fish" is someone newer to the game and still makes beginner mistakes, easy to play against. A "donkey" is somebody who knows better but plays like an ass anyways.

To me a fish will call all sorts of hands pf and will even call bottom pair on the flop hoping to hit trips or pair up, will fold if he feels hes to weak i.e lots of raising in the hand and hes missed

A donkey is a bit more reserved still fishy but tricky play can't be pulled off i.e good luck pushing them off their A-rag etc, thinks the cards infront of him no matter the kicker, are good i.e if you have 10s and flop comes j-8-2 and he has j-5 yeah good luck trying to push him off that not to mention you raised massive pf aswell.

Lol.

No, it doesn't matter. Just curious. Find myself, at times, while taking notes wanting to jot down the applicable term and thinking to myself that I'm not sure which is which.

At other times, when I've done something stupid, I wonder if my opponents perceive me as a fish or a donk.

None of it matters. Just a curiosity.

I have no idea if this is actually true or not but when I think of a fish, I think of a weak passive player who just calls and folds a lot and when I see someone overplaying hands and/or making dumb calls and bluffs, i think of them as a donk. Thats just me.

No need for writing a term, just write down exactly what they did, how they played and what they showed down.

I constantly get called a donk, and only once or twice a day a fish.
So I guess I come across as a donkfishdonk

I agree...

donk=bad player who just keeps sucking even thought they keep losing money
fish=new/passive/calling station type player, who might learn how to play eventually

This is just my opinion.
Fish = bad player who's just as bad as a player who's new to the game
Donkey = just a horrible bad player who knows the game

Fishes can turn into sharks if they eat and grow
I'm in that process right now. I'm a fish hoping to turn into a shark someday.

But a shark is a fish.

but JQ is a fish a shark ?

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I dont think anyone has been a smart as yet, so here it is.

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Your welcome.

A fish is a inexperienced novice player, almost playing there hands face up.

A donkey is a more knowlegable player, playing hands incorrectly with regards to strengths, odds, position etc.

Quick comment though, a lot of people called donks at lower levels are in fact better players exploiting the ABC poker played by their opponents.

there is no difference, they all should turn off their PC-s and find something else to do

The big difference between them is that generaly fish lose and sometimes donkeys win.
In the long-term better to be donkeys. LOL.

Couldn't agree more. Just make sure upon spotting them on your table, to sit to the immediate left of him/her.

I agree.

Lol!!!
Man, you've put way too much thought into that!

I love to be viewed as a fish at a table. Especially in live play. I have even gone as far as appearing shaking and nervious by shaking my hands when making a play. I have even made some bad calls to appear like a player who doesn't know what is going on. Once others at the table view you as a fish, it can be much easier to trap and extract maximum chips. However this only works for a short duration until the others realize that you might actually know what you are doing. Try it some time, it really does work.

I see them as two diferent players but either way its good to have some around

Fish = Will chase you to the river ..
Donkey = ALL IN WITH NOTHING on the river xD or ... ALL IN with 2 7 preflop xD

27 ZE NUTS ! in Donkey's eyes xD

I've never bothered to distinguish.

Level? If not, guess you don't like money...

Imo a fish is a new/inexperienced player. A donkey is a player who is/should be good, but acts like a fish, maybe in a certain hand or game.

And a lot of donks think they are those better players.

A fish, with AK, will call the missed flop down to the river, hoping to spike the A or K.

A donk, with AK, will bet the missed flop and turn and maybe the river, firmly convinced he has the best hand.

Both will disregard raises and reraises. Neither has found the fold button.

Before you tell anyone that please look me up and send them to my table.

they are just donks looking for a winning hand with out using a poker strategy, its definitely crappy, but it does happen. I think all of us have done it once or twice. "its just poker"