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  Poker - Day fish/Night fish
 
  #1  
23-06-2008, 6:14 PM
dj11
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Day fish/Night fish

SO! This month I've had several pretty big wins and have developed a theory based on far too little actual data. However, the data suggests so clearly that there is substance to my theory, that I can't or would rather not invest too much more trying to prove or disprove the theory. Rather I will predominantly flow with these early unsubstantiated results and see if at least one side of the theory is more valid.

The theory is that I personally tend to play better later in the day than I would prefer to play. I would prefer to play during daylight hours. I am west coast amerika, which makes my daylight hours prime time Europe, and afternoon/evening for the east coast, and some undefinable time for Zorba and Oz (I think the clocks run right to left in the southern hemisphere, due to the Coriolis effect).

My problem is that with age, staying up late enough for the truly prime time fish is getting a bit beyond me. I totally petered out last night at about 2 am. WAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY past my bedtime.

This all makes me wonder how well I could do in large live tourney's like the WSOP. These things thrive on late night shit, not to mention they play till very late.

On those days when I have no work (many of those days, these days), if I get into a bigger cash tourney I seem anxious about something and don't do well early in the day. So, looking through my arsenal of poker tricks, I will start playing play money tourneys, at higher stakes early, until that play money br is either depleted, or I work through things. I still relate bigger play money tourney's to something in the range of a $10-$25 tourney. Play is similar.

Oddly, among all the suggestions about not being results oriented, I find this to be an exception. One should always be aware of games one does poorly in, or conditions prove unfavorable, and adjust play accordingly, and that is a RESULTS ORIENTED frame of mind.

Perhaps my daylight timing is a form of variance. Reasonable consideration. But I'm going on close to a month on this pattern, and at times it screams 'truth' to me.

Also suggests I don't match up well against alert east coasters, or Europeans. I can work on that later. In the meantime, I'll try to capitalize on something I have (perhaps) learned, and they haven't (yet).
 

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23-06-2008, 6:24 PM
baby kahuna
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Im 60 and yet I sometimes stay up till 5 AM to finish in some MTT's deep. Of course I retired at an early age and can concentrate on poker and not get up for no one. Im in Vegas now playing at tournaments around town. Last nite played in a ST satellite at the WSOP at 11:30 PM. Then went to Binions to play in their 2AM tournament. Then to top off my day with a little SNG online at 4AM when I got home.
At Binions the HORSE tournament that started at 2PM was still going strong at 4AM and I heard broke at 8:30 AM with the final table so wiped out after 16 1/2 hours that they chopped it.
So time is relative and you cant let the rays of the moon get to you
  #3  
23-06-2008, 6:26 PM
MrMuckets
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It's always five o'clock somewhere.
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23-06-2008, 6:40 PM
Zorba
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11 View Post
and some undefinable time for Zorba and Oz (I think the clocks run right to left in the southern hemisphere, due to the Coriolis effect).
They sure do.
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23-06-2008, 6:44 PM
adventurebound
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Originally Posted by MrMuckets View Post
It's always five o'clock somewhere.
While this is certainly true there is a lot of merit to DJ's post. At ring games I find that I'm up against mostly Europeans early -mid day central US time and later evening it's mostly US players (I do suspect a high percentage of college kids too).

One interesting thing, lately I've noticed around noon CST I share the table with people ranging from Europe to Asia.

Seems to me the thing to look for are tables filled mostly with people from areas where it is very late at night and you'll usualy find players tired/drunk making poor plays.

One other thing I wonder about is that Auusie thing with clocks...We all know Zorba's and Oz's clocks runs right to left so why doesn't they change the numbers around to make em work right?
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23-06-2008, 6:58 PM
MrMuckets
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But it is always fish dinner time somewhere in the world. Yes i notice late at night a lot more asians at some sites. Are they fishier that euros? I don't think so. I play a lot on microgamming specifically on pokertime. I find the games there to be soft day or night. I am in no way dismissing the OP's post i was just commenting. I in no way intended this to be disrespectful of the OP's post. I am just commenting on what i notice.

Last edited by MrMuckets : 23-06-2008 at 7:18 PM.
  #7  
23-06-2008, 7:05 PM
Munchrs
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But it is always fish dinner time somewhere in the world. Yes i notice late at night a lot more asians at some sites. Are they fishier that euros? I don't think so. I play a lot on microgamming specifically on pokertime. I find the games there to be soft day or night.
does microgaming even have much traffic, when i looked at it (ages ago) it only had 1 or 2 games running at 25/50nl or .5/1 1/2 LHE
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23-06-2008, 7:29 PM
MrMuckets
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does microgaming even have much traffic, when i looked at it (ages ago) it only had 1 or 2 games running at 25/50nl or .5/1 1/2 LHE
Sadly No. And pokertime is in the process of going private which is cutting out even more games. But i have money on there so that's where i play.
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