Craziest stats you have seen? VPIP / PFR/ / AF

I just came across someone who is a 6/1/1 over 200 hands. Do they get nittier than this?

p.s. he has only won at showdown 1 out of 3 times

What games?

I can almost imagine this could work in some DoN's. Average hand count of a DoN's might be around 200 hands, so for grins lets assume these are all from one single DoN.

200's is 30 min bets (via blinds) at a 10 seat table, or 33.x at a 9 seat table (DoN's are usually 10 seat, or 8). So, it might also be assumed that the only flops he saw were walks in the BB or monsters.

Let's assume that he got called (by only one player) in the 1 hand he won at showdown and it was a checkdown. That would mean at least 5 minbets (BB, SB, and one limp), for a net investment of 25 minbets in that DON.

Now lets assume he only plays AA, KK, QQ, but not aggressively (he did not raise, but called all bets), but the hand was very active. He could have profited many more minbets, and in the end doubled his buy-in for an overall +EV.

If we go another step, and assume he gets agro with those hands, he could profit much more on those very few hands he plays.

Add in the occasional walk in the bb, (not sure how either tracker deals with walks), and the actual cost over those 200 hands could be significantly lower, like 20 minbets perhaps. Maybe even lower.

Theoretical of course, but I usually play DoN's pretty nitty. Not that nitty, but pretty nitty. As do most players who need to double up.

Sorry I meant cash games, this was in 10nl full ring. Yeah I used to play DoNs and ultra nitty works well. Although it makes for a dull session

In the micros you'll see a bunch of guys with many hands (500k-1mil +) with stats. like 10/5 12/6
Also see a bunch who are loose monkeys: 68/18 73/5 54/23 64/4 (10's of thousands of hands, not just a couple hundo). Had a guy the other day who was 53/42
Only in the micros, lol.

DJ is right with the dons.... I have an opponent at Everest who is 6/1/1 over 1200 hands...If he raises I auto fold.

Just played a sng with a woman who over 500 hands had 87/1. Not many hands but quite funny.

peskey123 said:

Just played a sng with a woman who over 500 hands had 87/1. Not many hands but quite funny.

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Site and screen name?

PooffyFooffy said:

Site and screen name?

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Lol I'll find out for you later. On stars

peskey123 said:

Lol I'll find out for you later. On stars

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Lol, damn, I can't play there at the moment, or maybe ever, or something like that. I do hope you added them to your buddy list.

At a 100nl table, I've recently played against a 91/68 who 3bet 67% over 150+ hands. He was on my immediate left.

100/89/92

This was over a few hundred hands

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($4)
Hero (UTG) ($4.84)
MP ($11.82)
Button ($22.02)
SB ($4.27)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A
Hero calls $0.04, MP bets $0.08, 1 fold, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises $0.46, MP raises $0.84, 1 fold, Hero raises $4.34 (All-In), MP calls $3.92

Flop: ($9.80) 6 , 5 , 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($9.80) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.80) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $9.80

Results below:
Hero had A

, A

(full house, sixes over Aces).
MP had 6

, 9

(four of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: MP won $9.31

It's fun when they have a hand...


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($9.80)
Hero (Button) ($4)
SB ($4)
BB ($6.51)
UTG ($20.04)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q
2 folds, Hero bets $0.16, 1 fold, BB raises $0.46, Hero raises $3.84 (All-In), BB calls $3.50

Flop: ($8.02) 6 , J , 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($8.02) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.02) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.02

Results below:
Hero had Q

, Q

(one pair, Queens).
BB had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $7.62

Belgosuisse - glad you said that about the player being directly to your left, I hate that too, its one thing playing at a table with a player or two like that, its a whole new thing when they are right on your damn left.
The craziest "stat" - dunno exact number, i played was last night. Every hand, every bet that was about x3 bb or smaller, was called. He lasted a bit just through shear luck, but it was funny to have your two pair called down by 8 2 off with nothing.

BelgoSuisse said:

At a 100nl table, I've recently played against a 91/68 who 3bet 67% over 150+ hands. He was on my immediate left.

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That's sick. Is that full ring or 6max? Either way, how much is he down? Or possibly up?

I know it works either for some people who make huge profits from pure out right bluffs but of course you have to pick the right spots.

On another note, I wonder what the likes of Tom Dwan stats would be over a decent sample of hands, I'd be interested in knowing that! Anyone hazard a guess?

Full ring or 6max, I think he is still playing a tad too loose

I think when someone appears really nitty over a small sample it's far less likely to be close to their actual stats than a really loose donktard.

Say someone runs 6/1/1 over 200 hands like in the OP, he may in actual fact just be card dead and his actual stats might be 12/5 or something. But if someone is an 80/60 I think it's much more likely to be how they always play.

If I'm multitabling 6max for an hour or two, some of my tables will show me as 30/24 or something and others as 8/6 or something whereas the actual stats would be somewhere in between.

ramdeebam said:

That's sick. Is that full ring or 6max? Either way, how much is he down? Or possibly up?

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6max. And he's a huge fish. But it's still tough to play when he has position and you can't flop anything.

BelgoSuisse said:

At a 100nl table, I've recently played against a 91/68 who 3bet 67% over 150+ hands. He was on my immediate left.

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Was it me?