| This is a discussion on Check nuts = penalty within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; Hi, guys Look at this: YouTube - 2010 WSOP Episode 8 1/4 Main Event - DAY 1D Darvin moon gets a penalty for NOT betting ... |
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| Check nuts = penalty Hi, guys Look at this: YouTube - 2010 WSOP Episode 8 1/4 Main Event - DAY 1D Darvin moon gets a penalty for NOT betting the nuts in position on river. What the heck? Have you ever heard of that rule? How lame.. Then I remembered I saw this video: YouTube - NBC Heads Up Poker - Kristy Gazes vs Chad Brown where kristy gazes does something INCREDIBLY stupid, but the guy playing her isnt much smarter himself, he didn't bet the river with the absolute nuts!! But you don't see him get a penalty do you ? How long does this rule exist? Never heard of it |
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| Its a good rule because the assumption is that the only time someone is not going to bet the absolute best hand possible when last to act on the river is because he is in collusion with his opponent and betting buts his opponent in a bad position. Its a good rule, yes sometimes people misread their cards but its the rule is in place to prevent collusion. In the second hand they are HU in a shootout, that element of collusion is not there because of that. |
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If you heard him, he said he didn't think there was any point in betting, because he put her on an Ace, too, therefore they would split the pot.. but as marginal said anyways, it was heads up. Not much collusion really goes on in HU, somebody's gotta win it, lol. |
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| very interesting... I can see that Moon didnt bet because he wanted to see the opponent's hand. if Moon HAD bet, the guy wouldve folded. (but he could watch the reruns on tv later...lol) glad to learn about a new rule in tournament play: you HAVE to bet the nuts on the river if you have the last play. thanks for the post |
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| It's not about slow playing the nuts, you can slow play it, but if it comes to you on the river and you're last to act, surely you would bet to get some value? If that's how you slowplay the nuts, then it's stupid. Atticus says that you can see it on the reruns later but Moon says he didnt bet so he could see what he was playing with so he could work on that later but A) Moon doesn't have the poker ability to work on reads and B) I'd much rather make a value bet with the nuts and get a few mroe chips, how does he know he won't call? If he has such a solid read on him that he won't call, why does he need more? It's pure donk play checking back the nuts. |
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1 - It's not a new rule. 2 - The main reason Darvin Moon didn't bet is that he's clueless. |
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but that's how he explained it when interviewed... he wanted to see what kind of hand his opponent played like he did. It is a good rule, but I wouldn't call him clueless. |
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The Showdown
Last edited by C00T : 17th January 2011 at 11:38 PM. |
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Rule makes 100% sense. |
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| notice i said lame rule IMO...to each his own dude...i felt bad for darvin b/c he had no idea and if i were in his shoes one day to where i had the nuts and checked and got penalized for it id be pissed off ...therefore its 100% lame IMO |
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You're entitled to your opinion, but as has been pointed out above it's not a new rule. It's not even a contentious rule like forward motion vs cut and release that's different depending on where you play. Aside from that you're ignoring the fact that there are no good reasons to check the nuts in position in the river in the first place. So even if you choose not to read the rules of the game there's still no reason to be doing it. |
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| re: Check nuts = penalty poker Yes, I deal live games. I don't see how that can change the following facts though: Fact 1 - Anyone who pays to enter a tournament (especially one with a large buy in) should make it their business to have read the tournament rules. It doesn't cost you any extra to do so and it could save you money and hassles. Fact 2 - Even if you haven't bothered to read the rules there still aren't any good reasons to be checking the nuts when you're last to act on the river. |
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