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  Poker - chasing a flush
 
  #1  
27-01-2008, 4:56 PM
aquadad
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chasing a flush

I'm on the button. blinds are 15-30. UTG raises to 105. next player calls- folds to me and I'm on the button. blinds are 15-30. UTG raises to 105. next player calls- folds to me and I call with J8 hearts. flop is all rags with 2 hearts. UTG goes all in. Right there I put him on a big pr trying to drive out a flush draw. The next player folds and I call thinking all I have to beat is a big pr. Turn is no help and the river gives me my flush. he's out and says that I was chasing. Was I?
 

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27-01-2008, 5:43 PM
Chris_TC
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Depends on the stack sizes. But it sure sounds like you didn't have odds to call.
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27-01-2008, 6:08 PM
wsorbust
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With no pair, yes. You just admitted you needed to beat a big pair right? You were chasing the "draw", which means you have a hand that is not yet good.
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27-01-2008, 6:11 PM
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You didn't say how much the all in was but I'm assuming early in a tourny that it was significant. So you were risking a lot of chips for 250 chip pot with a 1 in 6 draw. Definitely chasing and a very bad play. I would suggest reading some of the articles here Poker Strategy - Poker Theory, Poker Articles, Strategies & Tips.
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27-01-2008, 6:25 PM
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Ipser---Is flush draw a 1in 6 draw. if you have 2 chances at it. Not questioning is he right just making sure I am see these odds right.
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27-01-2008, 6:26 PM
nevadanick
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Considering you called an all-in with nothing but a flush 'draw' - yeah, I'd have to agree with calling it 'chasing'.

Beyond that, it was a J high flush you were chasing. with rags on the board. If opponent had a 'big' pair and one was a heart, what would runner, runner hearts have done to your chase ?

I think I could find a whole lot better hands to bet the farm on, but that's just me. I would also guess that this was a FREEroll or micro MTT, which would also explain your call - online. Would you really have called that all-in bet at a casino table ?

Reading between the lines of your post, and your subsequent question, are you looking for someone to justify your call as 'good play' ?
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27-01-2008, 7:58 PM
switch0723
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why call hte preflop bet with j,8? your asking for trouble
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27-01-2008, 8:14 PM
Alon Ipser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHRK2TH
Ipser---Is flush draw a 1in 6 draw. if you have 2 chances at it. Not questioning is he right just making sure I am see these odds right.
You are right. approx 1 in 3 with 2 draws but still bad odds
 


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