Chairman Barney Frank Predicts 2009 Defeat of UIGEA

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  #1
5th September 2008, 6:50 PM
JeffreyS
 
Chairman Barney Frank Predicts 2009 Defeat of UIGEA

Congressman Barney Frank has boldly told reporters that he believes 2009 will be the year that the Democrat-controlled Congress will overturn the 2006 UIGEA, which effectively seeks to ban internet gambling. This is especially significant since Frank is chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and author of a bill that would legalize and regulate Internet gambling.

The full article is here: Barney Frank Expects Online Gambling Bill to Pass in 2009.

We encourage you to visit Safe and Secure Internet Gambling Initiative where you can learn more and contact your member of Congress to take action on this important issue.

Thanks.

Jeffrey Sandman
Safe and Secure Internet Gambling Initiative
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  #2
5th September 2008, 7:13 PM
LeanAndMean
 
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Would be nice if true, but I am afraid that with all republicans and those dems who worry about their religious constituents wanting to legislate our morality, i'll believe it when I see it. Another thing I worry about is the theme for repeal is "regulate it so the government can collect tax on it". It that what we want? Not me. Just leave it alone and I will continue to find ways to cash out that don't unfavorably affect my pocket book.
  #3
5th September 2008, 7:41 PM
cool32steve
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffreyS
Congressman Barney Frank has boldly told reporters that he believes 2009 will be the year that the Democrat-controlled Congress will overturn the 2006 UIGEA, which effectively seeks to ban internet gambling. This is especially significant since Frank is chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and author of a bill that would legalize and regulate Internet gambling.

The full article is here: Barney Frank Expects Online Gambling Bill to Pass in 2009.

We encourage you to visit Safe and Secure Internet Gambling Initiative where you can learn more and contact your member of Congress to take action on this important issue.

Thanks.

Jeffrey Sandman
Safe and Secure Internet Gambling Initiative
It might "seek to ban internet gambling", but has come nowhere close. Sure, some sites have banned US players, but there are plenty of sites where you can still play, and deposit real money. The best way that I have found to deposit is with a prepaid Visa card, so I don't believe that this legislation has done much to inhibit my ability to play poker online...
  #4
5th September 2008, 8:33 PM
kaiWalk
 
Plays at: Doyle's Room
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffreyS
Frank is chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and author of a bill that would legalize and regulate Internet gambling.
Anytime they seek government regulation, I worry.

The current "Ban" is easy to work around. Government regulation will be more difficult.
  #5
5th September 2008, 10:37 PM
JeffreyS
 
re: Chairman Barney Frank Predicts 2009 Defeat of UIGEA poker

The problem is that the regulations outlined in the UIGEA may be enforced more tightly in the future. We must win the ideological war that online gambling is in fact legal and a freedom that all Americans should enjoy.
  #6
5th September 2008, 10:41 PM
Arjonius
 
How sad is it that even if Barney Frank is correct and the UIGEA is overturned next year, that a law takes so little time to pass and so long to get rid of it? Sheesh.
  #7
6th September 2008, 2:00 AM
kaiWalk
 
Plays at: Doyle's Room
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffreyS
The problem is that the regulations outlined in the UIGEA may be enforced more tightly in the future. We must win the ideological war that online gambling is in fact legal and a freedom that all Americans should enjoy.
Even if it's enforced, the law is only targeted at financial institutions, not players. Regulation would lift the ban on financial institutions accepting the proceeds, in exchange for either a W4 or 1099 being issued with all withdrawals .
  #8
6th September 2008, 4:09 AM
TKinWIS
 
Plays at: Bodog&Tilt
Game: holdem
It is a law with very narrow support. Only those who believe that gambling is a family wrecking addiction. While Sen Kyle is gone. Sen. Boxer is a force in the senate that will work to uphold UIGEA. She believes that children need protection. The banks hate this rule. It costs them millions to police transactions. Congress may jump at the chance to tax poker. Regulation will be very strong to get past Sen. Boxer and the others fearful of the harm caused by gambling.
  #9
6th September 2008, 4:45 AM
smd173
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeanAndMean
Another thing I worry about is the theme for repeal is "regulate it so the government can collect tax on it". It that what we want? Not me. Just leave it alone and I will continue to find ways to cash out that don't unfavorably affect my pocket book.
Just because the UIGEA is in effect doesn't mean you don't owe taxes on what you win now.

The two main things regulation by the government would do, is make online companies pay mega bucks for government issued licenses, and they'd make everyone get a W2-G at the end of the year to keep you honest on how much you owe in taxes.
  #10
6th September 2008, 5:33 AM
TKinWIS
 
Plays at: Bodog&Tilt
Game: holdem
re: Chairman Barney Frank Predicts 2009 Defeat of UIGEA poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by smd173
Just because the UIGEA is in effect doesn't mean you don't owe taxes on what you win now.

The two main things regulation by the government would do, is make online companies pay mega bucks for government issued licenses, and they'd make everyone get a W2-G at the end of the year to keep you honest on how much you owe in taxes.
What I was talking about taxing the activity, not just the winnings. That is the feds would take a percent of the gross, or perhaps a license fee to pay for policing the online site. That's pretty much how all brick and mortar casinos operate in the US.
  #11
6th September 2008, 8:06 AM
adventurebound
 
Game: Firewater
Should this go through one could make a small fortune buying stock from the right poker companies while it's still cheap. No doubt the price of shares will skyrocket the day online gaming is legalized in the USA.
 



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