Bubble Puss

#1 16th March 2007, 12:33 AM

Okay, playing tight on the bubble is one thing, but this is disgraceful.
Ed "The Cajun Squeeze" Pellegrini lays down pocket aces 3 times while on the bubble. (March 15, 2007)
CardPlayer.com - TV

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#2 16th March 2007, 12:39 AM

? Depends when ya fold em...Certainly wouldn't do it preflop.

#3 16th March 2007, 12:43 AM

That made me cry.

He deserves to get them cracked for evermore.

#4 16th March 2007, 12:43 AM

He foldem them preflop.

#5 16th March 2007, 12:45 AM

Well, like the guy in the vid said, it's a little different if he satellited in. If he's a guy who can only play $30 tourneys, but somehow made it into like a $500 entry tourney and now has a chance to win that $15,000 minimum prize, then I don't see it as that terrible...don't know if I could do it myself, but don't fully blame him.

If this is a tourney well within your BR limits and you regularly play those stakes, then you're beyond weak-tight folding aces...

Cute interviewer btw

#6 16th March 2007, 12:57 AM

it's obvious from the interview that the guy has no clue about poker at all

#7 16th March 2007, 1:01 AM

Depends on the action before hand I suppose. But seems stupid to me. Of course I call all in with second pair

#8 16th March 2007, 1:21 AM

really dumb move, like one guy had mentioned at the table, he would have been chip leader if his 3 pocket aces held up.
but then again, if he did satellite...........fk it, all-in with A-A period

#9 16th March 2007, 1:24 AM

What a fish. He shouldn't be playing poker. I have bigger balls then him and I'm a girl.

#10 16th March 2007, 1:41 AM

Maybe that's what a "Cajun Squeeze" is.

#11 16th March 2007, 1:57 AM

What a fish. He shouldn't be playing poker. I have bigger balls then him and I'm a girl.

LOL my kind of gal, guess there is a little depends jumping, if its head to head and you have aces, you should be shot maybe even multiple times for folding aces, now if the whole table went all in, then you should fold and hope for the best, but a general rule of thumb is you dont fold aces even if your on the bubble, the odds are still in your favor, hell even 3 people in you go all in, but if the whole table went all in and your on the bubble, I would fold just to be safe. Also depends on what kind of people your playing against.

#12 16th March 2007, 4:52 AM

...I hadn't noticed the video, maybe it was edited in there after, but I think there should be an option in the poll, such as "Ah....it was really funny...I may not play to win or have made it past the fifth grade, but I'm sure as hell not stupid enough to fold pocket A's 'cause I'm scuuuurrrreeeed to lose".

#13 16th March 2007, 5:43 AM

David Williams said "$15,000 is a lot of money. It depends on his financial status."

Exactly. It all "depends". But if I got in on a $1000 satellite and I had as small of a stack as he did (notice that?), then I personally would be about 90% as likely to do the same thing to reach the money. $15,000 would improve my financial status quite a bit. It has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with sense regarding each person's unique situation in life and poker.

#14 16th March 2007, 5:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSticker

David Williams said "$15,000 is a lot of money. It depends on his financial status."

Exactly. It all "depends". But if I got in on a $1000 satellite and I had as small of a stack as he did (notice that?), then I personally would be about 90% as likely to do the same thing to reach the money. $15,000 would improve my financial status quite a bit. It has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with sense regarding each person's unique situation in life and poker.

Exactly, at the position I am right now in my life if I had a chance to win 15,000 by laying down aces a couple of times then I would have to do it. People could make fun of me, tell me I have no balls, say I have no buisness playing poker all they want, simple truth of the matter is 15,000 to some people (myself included) is A LOT of money, could go a long way towards a downpayment on a house, paying off student loans etc. etc. etc.

Granted if I were in his position and I had decided to get through the bubble before playing anymore hands I would fold without looking at them.

#15 16th March 2007, 6:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoestringx

Exactly, at the position I am right now in my life if I had a chance to win 15,000 by laying down aces a couple of times then I would have to do it. People could make fun of me, tell me I have no balls, say I have no buisness playing poker all they want, simple truth of the matter is 15,000 to some people (myself included) is A LOT of money, could go a long way towards a downpayment on a house, paying off student loans etc. etc. etc.

Granted if I were in his position and I had decided to get through the bubble before playing anymore hands I would fold without looking at them.

I think it takes more balls to lay them down and rely on your play later on than it does to play Aces on the bubble.

Also, he was pretty stupid for even showing the Aces he folded.....twice!!

#16 16th March 2007, 6:55 AM

His comment that he had been bubble boy 3 times before and didn't make the money is the clue.
I commend him for the bigger play. Where did he finish?

#17 16th March 2007, 9:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSticker

David Williams said "$15,000 is a lot of money. It depends on his financial status."

Exactly. It all "depends". But if I got in on a $1000 satellite and I had as small of a stack as he did (notice that?), then I personally would be about 90% as likely to do the same thing to reach the money. $15,000 would improve my financial status quite a bit. It has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with sense regarding each person's unique situation in life and poker.

if the money means so much to him, he should never have entered the donkament (and by association the satellite) in the first place.

Quote:

His comment that he had been bubble boy 3 times before and didn't make the money is the clue.
I commend him for the bigger play. Where did he finish?

lol

#18 16th March 2007, 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

if the money means so much to him, he should never have entered the donkament (and by association the satellite) in the first place.

True, but lets say he got lucky online and freerolled his way into the tournament, would you really begrudge the man folding aces to insure picking up a check?

Incidentally I just thought of this, if I had played enough poker to have a cheesy nickname like "The Cajun Squeeze" I would definently not fold my aces

#19 16th March 2007, 1:46 PM

I think you have to at least see the flop before pussing out. Even with raise in front of you. If you don't like the flop then wimp out.

#20 16th March 2007, 4:40 PM

How many times did it take you to realize not to put your fingers on a hot griddle?

#21 16th March 2007, 11:50 PM

That's a painful interview to watch. I wish they should more of the girl interviewer (who was very cute) than the clueless and slow-thinking player that was being interviewed.

#22 17th March 2007, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj11

How many times did it take you to realize not to put your fingers on a hot griddle?

AA IS the hot griddle.

#23 17th March 2007, 6:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj11

How many times did it take you to realize not to put your fingers on a hot griddle?

You shouldn't?????

#24 17th March 2007, 5:56 PM

Didn't a wise man once say something along the lines of... "Sometimes making the right move isn't enough. But, there's always another hand." ?

If you entered the tourney and you couldn't afford to play Aces there, then that's another situation....

#25 17th March 2007, 6:43 PM

Depends on how much reward there is in making money.
if your in a million dollar freeroll and your near the bubble i might fold, since i had been there allday. But if your in a 10dollar buyin and your risking losing 15 bucks, id push w/AA or even kk or qq.
of course im just a phish out of water anyway so it really doesn't matter what i think.
PeAcE

#26 17th March 2007, 10:31 PM

Here is how he finished:

(courtesy CardPlayer.com)
Ed Pellegrini Eliminated 11th ($70,000)
Ed Pellegrini gets all in for his last $97,000 preflop with A

K

from under the gun. Amir Shayesteh makes the call from the small blind and shows K

K

. The board comes 5

4

3

Q

and Pellegrini has been eliminated from the tournament.

The question is...if he hadn't layed down the Aces, would he have finished higher than 11th?

#27 17th March 2007, 10:38 PM

i don't think i'd have it in me to fold pocket aces let alone 3 times.

#28 17th March 2007, 11:22 PM

That makes my soul hurt.

#29 18th March 2007, 10:31 PM

He didn't fold them after the flop. He folded them pre-flop.

#30 18th March 2007, 11:01 PM

If you fold pocket aces, what hands do you stay on?

#31 19th March 2007, 4:58 AM

Fold Aces, then go allin with slick? Seems kinda back assward to me.

#32 19th March 2007, 5:34 AM

the only way i would to fold with pocket aces, is in a final table of a satellite with 8 entries.

#33 19th March 2007, 5:43 AM

At the very least he should have called all three times. He may have hit trips aces. Or like he said the 5's came out.

I can understand in certain situations. Folding AA if you were calling all your chips to a raise pre-flop and there's a player that is all-in anyways next blind.

But even then I wouldn't do it myself.

#34 19th March 2007, 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smd173

Here is how he finished:

(courtesy CardPlayer.com)
Ed Pellegrini Eliminated 11th ($70,000)
Ed Pellegrini gets all in for his last $97,000 preflop with A

K

from under the gun. Amir Shayesteh makes the call from the small blind and shows K

K

. The board comes 5

4

3

Q

and Pellegrini has been eliminated from the tournament.

The question is...if he hadn't layed down the Aces, would he have finished higher than 11th?

That's a very good question.

I think he should have played them and worked himself a huge stack for the final run.

#35 22nd March 2007, 1:10 AM

He wasn't going to play any hands.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't have folded the aces there. If I go out on the bubble with aces then I go out. I mean how many times do you think you're going to get them? It is the bubble so if you simply push every time you get then you do have some fold equity since no one else wants to go out either.

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