Book review: Hellmuth presents Read 'em and Reap

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  #1
19th October 2009, 1:20 AM
Douggyfr3sh
 
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Game: Holdem
Book review: Hellmuth presents Read 'em and Reap

Full book title: Phil Hellmuth Presents Read 'Em And Reap: A Career FBI Agent's Guide to Decoding Poker Tells

ISBN: 9780061198595

Price: USA $18.95 (worth every cent and then some)

Author: Joe Navarro, FBI Special Agent Retired

http://www.navarropoker.com/

This book is an excellent walkthrough of the general various tells players exhibit at the tables, backed with scientific evidence as well as years of FBI experience in using "tells" to take down the bad guys. The book is a very easy read, about 200 pages with many example photos. I read it in 4 hours, finished it the day before my 2nd live holdem tournament ever. It was a small local event, $50+5 NLHE with no rebuys and insanely quick blinds (no antes). There were about 40 entrants with top 5 paying. I ended up making the final table and busting out in 7th after getting horrible cards all day. As the tournament progressed, I noticed that there were some $1/2 NLHE side games starting up. I went home, got $60, and came back to play. I turned 60 into 231 in less than an hour, covering my entry fee and then some. Read 'Em And Reap undoubtedly gave me a huge edge in both the tournament and the cash game. I distinctly remember profiting over $80 in one hand because I spotted a tell, and bet accordingly. In the tournament, I also bluffed at 2 large pots to win- all because of the tells I was picking up as a result of the book. I am still very slow at picking them up, but on my first day of applying these techniques I was very profitable for it. Thanks Joe!
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  #2
19th October 2009, 8:55 AM
OzExorcist
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
Yeah, I've been ranting about this book to whoever will listen some time now.

Seriously, anyone who recommends Mike Caro's Book of Tells over this text almost certainly hasn't read it. For casino NLHE it's perfect. It's well written, set out in coherent sections, the photos are large, clear and make sense and the scientific theory the whole thing is based on is very hard to fault.

Worth it for the concealing tells section alone.
  #3
19th October 2009, 11:38 AM
lektrikguy
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: HE/PLO/Razz
Hellmuth's first book blew chunks. Hope this one really is better. Have to check it out.
  #4
19th October 2009, 4:52 PM
Reducto
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: nl holdem
Hellmuth didn't write this one - he just contributed his name and a few anecdotes where he talks about how great he is. Navarro is the primary author.

It's a really different book from Caro's - they cover very different ground in different ways. Anyone who plays live should read both books several times IMHO.
  #5
19th October 2009, 5:16 PM
luckforsome
 
Poker at: Full TIlt
Game: NHL
re: Book review: Hellmuth presents Read 'em and Reap poker

hmmm...thanks for notifying about the book..ill go get it, ie struggled to enjoy the last few ive read...Reducto are you sure Hellmuth didnt write this...and would you know which of his is best to read...?
  #6
19th October 2009, 9:00 PM
LarkMarlow
 
Online Poker at: FT, PS, Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
This guy is the real deal. I've read numerous articles by him and heard pros (other than Hellmuth) rave about the guy. As the OP said, check this out: www.navarropoker.com .

Last edited by LarkMarlow : 19th October 2009 at 9:05 PM.
  #7
19th October 2009, 9:44 PM
Poker Orifice
 
Poker at: kitchen tabl
Game: NLHE
Quote:
Originally Posted by luckforsome
hmmm...thanks for notifying about the book..ill go get it, ie struggled to enjoy the last few ive read...Reducto are you sure Hellmuth didnt write this...and would you know which of his is best to read...?
NONE of Helmuth's books are best to read (read poster above...'read Phil's book... it blew chunks') ... he's not exaggerating. I've read dozens of poker books & Phil's would have to rate down at the bottom with the worst of them (too bad... I like Phil).
Read 'em & Reap is the only one I haven't read but have read alot of Navarro's articles and have lots of them saved on my computer (he really goes into some in-depth stuff on tells).

Oddly enough I was out with a friend on Saturday and visited a mall in another city and of course.... straight to the bookstore. There was only one poker book on their shelf that I hadn't read (yet) and it was Read'em & Reap.
Do you think it's really worth getting even if you're able to just read Navarro's stuff online? If so, I'll probably pick this one up too (haven't been able to order thru the local library via an 'inter-library book loan').

Good to hear you were able to put it to good use right after reading it. Pretty sure all can relate to those smaller buyin live tourneys (ie. ~$50) where blinds escalate like crazy and avg. chipstacks end up being under 5bb's (seems most of the players don't understand that they need to be getting their chips in >>>> limp, call, call, call, call.. FLOP.. minbet...call.. fold fold... turn> minbet.. call...river.. check.. check... oh.. your hand is better than mine.. you flopped bottom pr. with your Q3sooooted.
  #8
20th October 2009, 9:15 AM
Douggyfr3sh
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Poker orifice- yes, I think it is worth getting even if you can read his articles. It is well-written and has all of the information in one nice neat place. Has anyone read Caro's book of tells and do you think it would be worth it for me to pick that up also??
  #9
20th October 2009, 7:14 PM
M33K3R
 
Poker at: FTP and PS
Game: NLHE and PLO
I'll have to check this book out. Thanks for the info!
  #10
20th October 2009, 10:12 PM
Douggyfr3sh
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: Book review: Hellmuth presents Read 'em and Reap poker

Definitely. No problem!
  #11
20th October 2009, 11:48 PM
OzExorcist
 
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Game: wild deuces
Quote:
Originally Posted by luckforsome
hmmm...thanks for notifying about the book..ill go get it, ie struggled to enjoy the last few ive read...Reducto are you sure Hellmuth didnt write this...and would you know which of his is best to read...?
It's absolutely 100% certain - Phil Hellmuth did not write this book.

It's written by Joe Navarro, a career FBI agent who isn't a poker player and IMO the book is all the better for it. Ever watch that Lie to Me show? Navarro is kinda like a real-life version of Cal Lightman. Guy knows what he's talking about.

As to whether it's worth buying the book if you've read several of his articles... I dunno, I haven't read the articles in question. I've read a few things he's submitted to Bluff though and they do seem to cover the same ground. He wrote an article about "the most honest part of the body" for Bluff, for example, and it was basically the same as what's in Read 'em and Reap.

What are the photos like in the articles you've read? If they're small or not included then it's definitely worth getting the book, because the photos are excellent and really add to the understanding.
  #12
21st October 2009, 1:53 AM
Theblueduce
 
Online Poker at: Where I win
Game: Hold EM
Thnaks for the intel on this. I will check it out. I liked Phils book "Play Poker like the Pro's" was OK. I thought it had some great fundamentals.
  #13
24th October 2009, 10:25 PM
Douggyfr3sh
 
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Game: Holdem
Okay I don't know if I was unclear about this or what, but Phil Hellmuth DID NOT WRITE THIS BOOK. Joe Navarro (www.navarropoker.com) did. Basically, Phil just throws in his 2 cents at the end of each section, sometimes giving an example of a real world application of the techniques Navarro discusses.
  #14
25th October 2009, 9:53 AM
valientone
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
i havent read that book yet, but from what i can tell its been getting some pretty good reviews... and hellmuth has always been my favorite player
  #15
21st December 2009, 8:36 PM
LarkMarlow
 
Poker at: FT, PS, Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
re: Book review: Hellmuth presents Read 'em and Reap poker

I finally got around to reading this book--bought it because of the OP--and wow IMO is it ever packed with valuable information.

The large photos are indeed really helpful, and Navarro definitely knows what he is talking about. I was fascinated by his stories about how he picked up the subtle tells he describes in detail while working for the FBI and how they apply to almost every human situation, not just the poker table.

There are lots of books that I read only once--this is one that I'll definitely read again. I also earmarked certain pages that I will review before I play live after the holidays are over.
  #16
Today, 5:44 AM
Douggyfr3sh
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarkMarlow
I finally got around to reading this book--bought it because of the OP--and wow IMO is it ever packed with valuable information.

The large photos are indeed really helpful, and Navarro definitely knows what he is talking about. I was fascinated by his stories about how he picked up the subtle tells he describes in detail while working for the FBI and how they apply to almost every human situation, not just the poker table.

There are lots of books that I read only once--this is one that I'll definitely read again. I also earmarked certain pages that I will review before I play live after the holidays are over.
Lark- Glad you decided to pick up the book, and glad I influenced your good decision! If you ever get around to seeing this thread again, can you post how it has helped you? Thanks.
 




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