Big Blind twice in a row???

Hey all

As Im not 100% sure on what the rule is on this i thought i had best ask here for emailing the site.

I was dealt the big blind twice in a row on the same table, Nobody had been knocked out on the hand previous to me getting my first big blind and nobody was knocked out on the hand when i was my first big blind if that makes sense.

I was then the big blind again

The dealer button was given to an empty seat on my second big blind but this seat had been empty for a min of 5 or so hands.

As im not sure if this is correct or not any help would be much apreciated.

Cheers

Daryl

1. where do you play?
2. did you just come to that table?

It was at Pacific poker.

It was a sit and go with 40 people over 5 tables and i had been at that table from the start.

Cheers

Makes no sense. If the button was "dead" (in an empty seat) then the blinds should have advanced as well. Are you sure this is what happened? Do you have the hand histories?

I might actually be wrong, Ive just gone over it again and in actually fact someone did go out! however it still seems abit odd,

Im not sure how to get the hand historys out of pacific so this is the only way i could think of to show you.

Im Dary1

Hand 1.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9236&d=1204806520)

Hand2.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9237&d=1204806532)

Hand3.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9238&d=1204806546)

As you can see in the picture below someone has gone out and i have become the big blind, tapotour is the dealer.

Hand4.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9239&d=1204806560)

And on this picture below i am the big blind again and only the dealer button has moved to a seat that has been empty since the begining i think

Hand5.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9240&d=1204806569)

Cheers all

Yeah, you got it twice. That is so wrong. The button should skip that empty chair. You would think with all the money these sites make that they could take the time to program their game well.

...wow, that's horrible.

E-mail their 'support' and let them know (though the chances of them fixing it this year are about 2%).

whoa, awful. that is really quite an egregious error. email their support and berate them

Thanks for the help people!

I'll definatly be emailing support and see what they say, Ill keep you updated if i get a response.

Cheers

Daryl

Wow that's dead wrong. They may as well make 7s better than 9s. I cannot believe a site that big (I've heard of it, so it must be semi-big) would have such a horrible programming error. Also did you check their terms? I know pokerstars just uses a moving button where once in a while people get to skip their blinds. But paying (the big) blinds twice in a row is just wrong. Email their support definitely.

Yeah, this is a programming error (as opposed to a stupid rule error). With the moving button rule you can miss blinds (at least in some poker site interpretation) but you should never have to pay them twice. If they used the dead-button rule you'd never get to skip them either.

<writes on notepad> "Dont play on pacific poker"

WOW, that's a really bad error on their part.

notes to self: pokerstars' dealer button skips empty seats, full tilt doesn't, and pacific charges you double blinds!

it would be interesting to see what happened during the three hands prior to you getting ppA's....

did feodora1 pay bb twice too?

Here are the three hands prior to me getting pocket A's

He never had the big blind twice, The dealer button passed the empty seat.

Ive not emailed support yet... not sure exactly what to say, the only thing i can think of is sending the pictures above to them and i guess they can check my history!

Here are the hands starting with the one just before my AA

before 1.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9285&d=1204859550)

before 2.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9286&d=1204859550)

before 3.JPG (http://www.cardschat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9287&d=1204859560)

Cheers

Daryl

Huh?!?

Do you have an example?

Please let us know what hilarious response you get to your e-mail.

I will do.

Still waiting for a reply at the moment

This is Horrible !!!

A Software Error by an Poker Provider,after this Report i will
never Play on Pacific Poker.What will come soon ???? Blind Trust is gone !!!
Thanx for the Report.

Greetings from Germany

Rigged! Well, maybe not rigged, but unacceptable. Can you imagine being on the bubble in a satellite and missing entry because you double payed the blinds? Is this Pacific? They've been around for years. I am very surprised.

Edit: I Just did a google search for some of the Key Words. Party Poker, Sofware Bug, Big Blind, Etc. Got nothing. I can't believe this is something that could go on for long without someone complaining about it.

I have encountered this before, but I believe at the time my mental state was not totally clear about what might have happened, so I let it slide. It hasn't happened since 'The Act' which leads me to believe it was at Party, which I no longer play at.

When you write their support, include for them exactly what you included here. It didn't take but a second to see what happened. Probably easier to read than a standard HH.

I doubt they will do anything more than say 'Yes, we have received your email, and are looking into it. Please accept this coupon good for a DoubleCheeseBurger, with Fries! and a CHocolate MilkShake'.

Then your account will be frozen and your chat turned off, with banishment shortly afterward.

Usually you will not get the BB 2x in a row. The only time I've had it happen is when I have been moved to a different table.

Brilliant. Is there a freeroll today?

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yea at the start of the tourney big blinds arn't really a big deal atleast

ive incontered the same thing on just about all the sites dont kno the reason but it happens

Hey all,

Quick update, Ive finally had my reply from pacific i'll post it below and also what i sent please let me know if it was unclear as to what i was telling them because they seemed to have no clue.

Cheers

Dear Daryl,

Thank you for contacting 888.

Daryl, I am sorry to learn that you have been forced to pay the big
blind twice in a tournament. This is unfortunate, but it can happen.
To ensure parity during a tournament we will move people from different
tables to ensure that there is an even number of players strewn across
the remaining tables. This process is done entirely at random and can
happen to anyone. Once moved, it may be that one has to pay the blinds
again - unfortunate, but it can happen.

I do understand that it can be annoying when this happens, especially
when one is moved to a table that seems to be hosting all of the players
with the big stacks - hard to bluff someone out of a pot in that
situation. However, I am sure you can appreciate the fact that whilst
this rule is in place one can also benefit from it greatly - it may be
that you are moved from table to table and never once pay the big blind.
You may get moved to a table where the players are looser and have
smaller chip piles...

I do thank you for your e-mail. We have considered various ways in
which we can change this process but have decided to keep the current
system in place as it seems to be the fairest way of distributing
players and keeping the tables sizes level.

On behalf of everyone here at 888, I wish you the very best of luck.

Kind regards,
Amanda G.
Member Support Representative
support@pacificpoker.com
Online Casino & Online Poker Room - 888.com
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A customer support request

Created on Fri Mar 07 13:18:56 GMT 2008 By phiber_optikuk@yahoo.co.uk
Below are the relevant details:
Issue:
Feedback/Other Questions , Software

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User Name : Dary1
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E-mail : phiber_optikuk@yahoo.co.uk


The user free text section:
Hello there.

Iam writing to let you know of a slight error with your poker software.

Whilst playing an 888 Express Sit N Go yesterday i was given the big
blind twice in a row on the same table.

Even though this was in the ealry stages of the sit and go i still felt
i was given a slightly unfair disadvantage and had this been towards the
end with the blinds being higher then it would have been a whole lot
worse.

Im not sure how you go about checking that im not telling tales but its
all in my game history.

The ID next to the tournement in my game history is 19064318 and the
hands it happend on are 242373407 and 242373475.

Thankyou

Daryl

888 support is ****, ranting about nonsense and in the end they didnt help u with the problem at hand, u clearly stated u got the bb in back to back hands on the same table yet amanda is talking about getting moved to another table and getting the bb at the new table.
lol move ur money to a new site plz, withdraw ur money and go to a real site

Good answer from them....To bad it had nothing to do with your question, problem and situation. They just explained how they justify 2 BB's when you move tables. They did not mention the fact that you are on same table and/or acknowledge any error...BoneHeads!!!

talk about incompetence. that really tilts me

You may choose to leave the site regardless, but I would still follow up to ENSURE that they understand the issue.

I have just emailed them back stating even more clearly that i was still at the same table when i recieved the BB twice in a row and even included pictures.

I guess they didnt look at my hand history (i guess they can) after i gave them the exact numbers of them.

I'll wait another week for my reply now.

Cheers

I can't believe how bad Party Poker sucks. They SUCK!

Wow - support FTW!

I suppose they probably get wads of complaints every day from someone who paid their big blind on one table only to be moved straight into the big blind on another table, and this is the generic response they give to all of those e-mails, but they've clearly missed the point here :P

WHAT A WHITE WASH