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  Poker - Am I smart?
 
  #1  
28-05-2008, 9:11 PM
kingme620
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Am I smart?

I lost my whole stack ($20, .05/.1) because my set of 10's got beaten by a set of Queens on the flop.

Doesn't Harrington say you're stupid if you fold because you THINK the other guy has a higher set?
 

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  #2  
28-05-2008, 9:24 PM
syntheticocean
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I'm going to steer clear of judging your intelligence. However, I would never go all in with anything other than the best possible hand. Even then, I would hope to god the other villian put me all in. Nothing tickles me more than seeing some doofus go all in without the best possible hand, and I crush him with the best.

One thing to always tell yourself - Never go all in. I'm sure I folded some big pots that I would have won because of that, but at the same time I just withdrew nearly 4000$ off of a 50$ initial deposit. I must be doing something right.
  #3  
28-05-2008, 9:26 PM
arkadiy
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You're stupid because you took whole stack to 1 table.
  #4  
28-05-2008, 9:39 PM
sliver101
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harrington has more money than u he can take the hits but seriously were u beat on the flop turn or river?
  #5  
28-05-2008, 9:42 PM
Effexor
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(1) stack does not = Bankroll necessarily

(2) If you don't go broke from set over set you are most likely not playing correctly.
  #6  
28-05-2008, 9:45 PM
WVHillbilly
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Originally Posted by syntheticocean View Post
I'm going to steer clear of judging your intelligence. However, I would never go all in with anything other than the best possible hand. Even then, I would hope to god the other villian put me all in. Nothing tickles me more than seeing some doofus go all in without the best possible hand, and I crush him with the best.

One thing to always tell yourself - Never go all in. I'm sure I folded some big pots that I would have won because of that, but at the same time I just withdrew nearly 4000$ off of a 50$ initial deposit. I must be doing something right.
So you'll only get all-in with the nuts??? Losing lots of value here. Does this mean that if we're playing and you raise preflop I should go all-in every time because you'll only call me with AA preflop???
  #7  
28-05-2008, 9:48 PM
arkadiy
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Originally Posted by Effexor View Post
(1) stack does not = Bankroll necessarily
Aww, I guess that's my mistake then
  #8  
29-05-2008, 2:20 AM
kingme620
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noooo...it was nowhere near my whole br.

And I didn't just push to a raise. It was a limped pot, flop something like Q 10 5 two of a suit, very agg. table. So naturally I thought it very unlikely somebody who was raising alot pf held QQ that hand. We both went thru alot of raises and reraises on the flop so I eventually just went all in. Was that a bad play? I guess so...but I think I would do the same thing again. I think I would feel worse if I had folded to the 1st or 2nd reraise.
  #9  
29-05-2008, 2:29 AM
D'wilius
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this is silly
  #10  
29-05-2008, 2:30 AM
KingCurtis
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I'm not smart
  #11  
29-05-2008, 2:33 AM
Inscore77
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No you are not smart
  #12  
29-05-2008, 7:34 AM
Makwa
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We both went thru alot of raises and reraises on the flop so I eventually just went all in. Was that a bad play?
Yes. But then again... maybe no. I think so.
  #13  
29-05-2008, 1:42 PM
TheNoob
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noooo...it was nowhere near my whole br.

And I didn't just push to a raise. It was a limped pot, flop something like Q 10 5 two of a suit, very agg. table. So naturally I thought it very unlikely somebody who was raising alot pf held QQ that hand. We both went thru alot of raises and reraises on the flop so I eventually just went all in. Was that a bad play? I guess so...but I think I would do the same thing again. I think I would feel worse if I had folded to the 1st or 2nd reraise.

Well, if it was MY set of 10's, he would have had AK and a jack would show up, or two of whatever was suited and another would hit.

Of course, these cards would hit on the river.
  #14  
29-05-2008, 2:08 PM
SavagePenguin
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At $10 NL I'm pretty much never ever folding a set to a shove on the flop, unless I'm playing a nit and there's a pair of overcards on the board.
You did the right thing. Don't sweat it. This is by no means an unintelligent move.

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Originally Posted by syntheticocean View Post
I'm going to steer clear of judging your intelligence. However, I would never go all in with anything other than the best possible hand. Even then, I would hope to god the other villian put me all in. Nothing tickles me more than seeing some doofus go all in without the best possible hand, and I crush him with the best.
Oh man... NEVER going all in without the nuts? That's so passive. That's such a waste of potential wins. At $10NL people stack off with TPTK, over pairs, two pair, etc. A set dominates the shove range of most players.
  #15  
29-05-2008, 2:43 PM
Egon Towst
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If you don't go broke from set over set you are most likely not playing correctly.
I concur.


Quote:
Originally Posted by syntheticocean View Post
One thing to always tell yourself - Never go all in. I'm sure I folded some big pots that I would have won because of that, but at the same time I just withdrew nearly 4000$ off of a 50$ initial deposit. I must be doing something right.
Congratulations on your success, but your advice seems too nitty, if you don`t mind my saying so.

If you only ever go all-in with the nuts, why would anyone ever call ?
  #16  
29-05-2008, 5:50 PM
vagas35
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At a very aggressive table i think you played it good, you were just unlucky to run into trip Qs on the flop.
  #17  
29-05-2008, 6:17 PM
KingCurtis
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I'm not smart
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No you are not smart
^^^^^these= unsmart spammage lmao
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